Peavey Valve King 112

Fred Nolen · From: Mohawk, Tennessee, USA

On Bobbe's latest news letter you can download a sample of him playing through one. It is very impressive. Has anyone else tried one? If so, whadda' you think.

Ol' Fred

Larry Lorows · From: Zephyrhills,Florida, USA

Bobbe admits that it has a thinner sound and isn't as powerful as the Nashville 112. If I just played 6 string through it, I would probably be happy. I'll stay with my Nash 112 built for steel guitar. Larry

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Ken Byng · From: Southampton, England

I have the ValveKing 112's big brother, the 100 watt 2 x 12" version. It is an incredible guitar amp and the steel sounds quite nice through it too. The big plus for this range is the price - amazing. I've had my ValveKing now for 18 months, and while it will never be a single solution for my pedal steel, Telecaster and electric banjo, it is simply the best value for money valve amp on the market.

Joe Smith · From: Charlotte, NC, USA

A friend of mine has one and I played through it at a jam. To my ear, I think the Nashville 112 sounds better.

David Doggett · Posted 6 Oct 2006 6:52 am

Other than volume,how does the Valve King compare to the Peavey Classic 30, Delta Blues, and Fender Hot Rod Deluxe?

Mike Brown · From: Meridian, Mississippi USA

The Valve King amplifier is a great sounding amplifier. Try it with steel and especially with six string guitar. You might like it. Bobbe Seymour can't be wrong!

Here's a link to it from our website; http://www.peavey.com/products/browse.cfm/action/list/cat/308/ValveKingSeries.cfm

Mike Brown
Peavey USA

Darryl Hattenhauer · From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA

Are the older solid state Peaveys still popular? I didn't like that gritty tone of the solid states, so I'm wondering if most steelers prefer solid state to tube.

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Jerry Hayes · From: Virginia Beach, Va.

I saw Bobbe's video of the ValveKing and was impressed with the sound. I have a NV112 and really love the size and sound of the thing. I also have a pair of older Peavey MX amps which are hybrid with four 6L6 power tubes and everything else is solid state. These have 12" Black Widow speakers in them and really smoke. I bought them at different times for guitar but lately I've used one of them for steel guitar and I was very impressed with the sound. They have more power than the NV112 also. The only bad thing is that although the cabinet is the same size as a Nashville 112, it has quite a bit of weight. But that's no problem as that's what hand trucks are made for.......JH in Va.

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Mark Eaton · Posted 6 Oct 2006 3:06 pm

I saw Bobbe's video. Interesting about the "thinner" comment.

I'm no amp expert, but typically, don't tube amps have a reputation for having a "fatter" sound?

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David Doggett · Posted 6 Oct 2006 5:46 pm

My impression from reading comments here on the Forum is that most steelers prefer solid state, for the clean tone with no distortion. And most prefer the older Peaveys to the NV1000. But with the steeler population getting older, and with miked amps at most venues these days, there's been a big move to the lower powered and lighter NV112.

But a fairly large minority of us like the tube tone, as long as it is clean enough. It just sounds less sterile, and has more harmonic texture and sparkle, especially at high volume. Of course tube amps with enough clean volume to compete with the big Peavey solid state amps are very heavy. Some of us deal with that by using head cabinets and separate speakers. But for a practice tube amp, or one for miked venues, there is a need for something between a Fender Deluxe and a Twin Reverb. The Vibrolux and Super have 10" speakers, that don't sound great for steel. The Pro is as big, and almost as heavey as a Twin. A lightweight clean tube amp in the 50 watt range with a 12" speaker would be welcome. Maybe the Valve King would fit the bill.

I don't think thinness or fatness are tied to either solid state or tube amps. That comes from how the amp is voiced. Peavey has made sure their solid state steel amps have a good fat bottom, even the NV112. But most tube amps are designed for guitar and voiced thinner. It's no wonder that a 41 lb. tube amp with 50 watts and a single 12 voiced for guitar sounds a little thinner. The question is whether it has enough clean volume and low end to handle C6 and 12-strings. I don't think I can tell with my computer speakers hearing Bobbe play solo at moderate volume. I'd like to hear from someone who tries the Valve King with a loud modern country or rock group, with C6 or a 12-string.

Eric West · From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.

[quote]But a fairly large minority of us like the tube tone-DD-[quote]

How many mice did you say you had in your pocket?

Here we go again..

EJL

David Doggett · Posted 6 Oct 2006 9:59 pm

By "us" I include myself in that minority. Plain English. Don't know if that includes any mice. What's the problem?

Eric West · From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.

Actually I like the "tube sound", and though by 112/400 usual combo affords LOTS of headroom, I use a "fender tube" model in my PodxtLive.

I'm thinking of trying a Valve King 212 if I can find one around town to try out.

Just giving you a hard time DD.

It would be interesting to see some actual stats on what the real majority outside the "forum" plays through.

I don't know where a person could get those.

Of the guys here in PDX, it has changed. A couple guys have gone to tube FTs, One I know of always has used one, and about 6 of us have SS amps, and most of us that I've cheked on use a "tube type" or modeled preamp of some sort.

I've always found the biggest drawback with tubes is they break. Second is the little glitchesd in the biasing as they wear.

I also noticed that the knobs seem to stick out like the 112s.

So much for all the feedback...

I like the Van Halen wings on the new logo though I guess.

EJL

David Doggett · Posted 7 Oct 2006 7:00 am

Eric, I'm just guessing from the chatter on the Forum. A huge number of pedal steelers seem to use one or more of the Peavey Nashville series SS amps, from the Sessions to the NV1000 and NV112. The tube contingent seems to be smaller. Lap steelers seem to mostly prefer tube amps for the vintage sound. But I don't even know the ratio of lap steelers to pedal steelers. Maybe if you add in the lap steelers there's close to equal numbers of SS and tube users. But that's a wild guess. We could set up one of those survey threads. But that assumes the people who respond represent the whole Forum. And there are plenty of steelers not on the Forum. So it's the old pollsters dilemma.

Eric West · From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.

I have a couple Dilemmas in my life, but those of a pollster haven't been laid at my door thank Jove.

OK.

I've been really busy the last 6 months or so, but last I heard Peavey had a BIG SURPRISE coming out.

Is this Valve King It?

Just wondering.

It's a GREAT idea, and I'm certainly going to go try one out at my earliest convenience.

The 6505 looks good too for tubers.

I also see that their 4x10 "bassman" looking amps have a fan. Another great idea.

Is there some kind soul that would fill me in on what the "latest" is with Peavey?

Another note.

Vacuum Tubes were the best they could do in the first part of the last century.

Let's not kid ourselves.

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 07 October 2006 at 09:03 AM.]

David Nugent · From: Gum Spring, Va.

I have the Valveking 100W head and use it to power two 15" cabs with 1502 8 ohm BW's (the two speaker jacks on the head are wired parallel and require a 4 ohm minimum load) and believe me, there is nothing "thin" about the tone. I replaced the preamp tubes with 12AT7's and the tone is now very smooth and stays so even at high volumes.

Darryl Hattenhauer · From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA

Thanks, folks. For me, the key word here is "sparkle." That's how I hear it.

More: http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum10/HTML/201994.html

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[This message was edited by Darryl Hattenhauer on 07 October 2006 at 07:12 PM.]

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