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Peavey Nashville 112 - [problem]?

Posted: 12 Jun 2006 3:05 pm
by William Steward
Helppppp...I was just practising with my 2 month old Peavey Nashville 112 in my living room and all of a sudden it started making a loud midrange hum (which did not stop with everything unplugged). It is kept in an A/C controlled environment, only been to a few gigs and I have a surge suppressor on my house panel so unlikely to be a power problem. This is very dissappointing since my old Peavey Session 400 has only had minor problems. Any theories on what the problem could be....and please don't recommend I ship it back to Peavey since I live in the middle of the Caribbean! Thanks in advance for theories....

Posted: 12 Jun 2006 3:27 pm
by William Steward
Well I have let it rest for a while and the noise has stopped....it will no doubt wait until I take it to a gig to repeat the experiment. These amps seem really dependable so it seemed very weird for it to make noise out of the blue. The Session 400 LTD had a noisey reverb with a bad connector - the final straw was playing on a bouncy stage and the amp was making loud crashing noises so I had to turn it off. My keyboard amps never have these sort of problems (Peavey and Motion Sound) since they don't have spring reverbs. Postscript....after 5 minutes turned on again the noise is back...... <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by William Steward on 12 June 2006 at 04:29 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 12 Jun 2006 4:19 pm
by Joe Smith
William, I had a brand new 112 that did the same thing.
I packed it up and took it back to the music store where I got it. I hooked it up to show the guy at the store what it was doing, and it worked perfectly. No hum. So, I carried it back to the house and it has always worked fine. No hum. I've used it on lots of gigs and it always works. I don't have a clue as to what caused it to hum that one time.

Posted: 12 Jun 2006 6:26 pm
by Jack Francis
I bought a Peavey Valveking 100W head a few months ago, after a month of playing it here in the house it started losing power a then the sound went away completely,,,I also thought that I smelled a little smoke.

I shut it down and took it to our local Peavey authorized repair dude...a month later they called and said that it works fine and they had it on for a few hours and so there was nothing to fix.

I picked it up brought it home and it seems to work fine??? Sounds GREAT too.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Jack Francis on 12 June 2006 at 07:27 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 12 Jun 2006 6:51 pm
by William Steward
Thanks fellas - I am not sure whether your anecdotes are encouraging or not. I will be happy if it goes away by itself....even if I have to pound on the top righ-hand corner or somwething. I will see if the ghost in the machine reveals itself....maybe Mike Brown can shed some light on the source of the problem.

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 1:56 am
by Jack Stoner
William, any electronic device can have a problem. However with the popularity and use of the Nashville 112 and so few, reported on the forum, problems it's really out in left field to call it "junk".

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 3:23 am
by Ian Finlay
I read the title as "is it now junk?" i.e. is it so broken it's now scrap as he can't send it to Peavey.

Ian

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 5:04 am
by Bill Crook
I am NOT saying this may be your problem but.......

The 2 screws that hold the output heatsink may be a bit loose. I had the same problem after a few weeks with my "112" in the den practic playing. I removed the plastic vent cover from the chassic (not the one on top of the amp case) and tightened the 2 screws up and the humm stopped immeditately.

I checked the pcb and find that heatsink is used as part of the circuit so the heatsink MUST be in good contact at all time. This, in my opinion is not a bad thing as OEM have used this medoth for many years without any trouble. Sometimes the screw(s) may not be tighten down enought,so the problem may not show up for a while.

"Peavey" did a real good job with the "Nashville 112" production. The output Q's C-e breakdown is rated at 200 volts. The B+ rails is only 80 volts total. I find that through-out the whole amp, "Peavey" designed an over-kill with parts and workmanship with this product. Based on what I see with this amp, It should never fail. You may blow a speaker (as in any amp,this is the major weakness) due to machanical failure. But the Electronics package is one of the best I've ever seen in a amp. They fixed the molex connector problems with the rever pan. With the newer type connectors,and the speaker leads connected directly to the PCB, "Peavey" has made a real workhorse with this model.
<SMALL>Peavey Nashville 112 junk ???</SMALL>
Definatlly not !! Shame on you for even thinking such.

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Posted: 13 Jun 2006 5:50 am
by Mike Brown
The Steel Guitar Forum is a great way to share thoughts and ideas with fellow steelers. But, the comments that are posted here can also cause unnecessary concern among satisfied owners of the Nashville 112. The Nashville 112 has been the fastest selling steel amp to date for Peavey Electronics..................and Peavey has designed and manufactured more models than any other steel amp manufacturer in the world, so we do have the most experience with steel amplifier designing and manufacturing. There is nothing wrong with inquiring with fellow forumites as to whether they have experienced the same "symptom" as perhaps you have experienced. But, calling a well received/well respected electronic product a piece of "junk" before a valid solution is reached is where is I have to question the comment.

Now, to the symptom of a "loud midrange hum". I hear of most of the problems with the Nashville 112 and have not heard this symptom. But, I do have some questions. Was the reverb control turned on?, What other electronic gear was also connected to the amp when this hum occurred? Does this symptom occur on a regular basis? Has it been a one time type of symptom? Did you try another instrument with this amp? Did the same thing occur? Did you change all cables? Were all other electronic pieces eliminated?

I am not convinced that the amp is the problem until all of these questions have been considered, but I welcome feedback from you.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation
North America-toll free-1-877-732-8391, ext.1180
Outside North America-(601)483-5365.

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 6:11 am
by Mike Brown
The Steel Guitar Forum is a great way to share thoughts and ideas with fellow steelers. But, the comments that are posted here can also cause unnecessary chaos if you own a Nashville 112. The Nashville 112 has been the fastest selling steel amp to date for Peavey Electronics..................and Peavey has designed and manufactured more models than any other steel amp manufacturer in the world. There is nothing wrong with inquiring with fellow forumites as to whether they have experienced the same "symptom" as perhaps you have experienced. But, calling a well respected electronic product a piece of "junk" before a valid solution is reached is where is I have to question the comment.

Now, to the symptom of a "loud midrange hum". I hear of most of the problems with the Nashville 112 and have not heard this symptom. But, I do have some questions. Was the reverb control turned on?, What other electronic gear was also connected to the amp when this hum occurred? Does this symptom occur on a regular basis? Has it been a one time type of symptom? Did you try another instrument with this amp? Did the same thing occur? Did you change all cables?

I am not sure that the amp is the problem until all things have been considered, but I welcome feedback from you.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation
North America-toll free-1-877-732-8391, ext.1180
Outside the U.S.-(601)483-5365

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 6:18 am
by Bob Knight
I agree with Mike,
I believe that we self induce a lot of these problems with amps, volume pedal pots, etc., and panic before we evaluate the whole picture. A prime example was my first NV 112, I called Mike and told him about an intermittent noise, no real pattern. Somedays it would do it and other times it was quiet as a mouse. We discussed it to length, and finally decided I should send it in to be checked out. In the meantime It kept doing the same thing on an irregular basis. I don't remember exactly how I discovered the fact that when my CELL PHONE was not on or near the amp it had NO problems. Image Image Most of these crisis situations can be solved with a little patience and thought.

A long time and satisfied PEAVEY user.

Present PEAVEY Gear:
2- Nashville 112s
LTD 400
CS-200X
TransTube Fex
TubeFex
BassFex
Several Cache Card 32
2-Nashville 112e
Bandit 112
Companion 15
Nashville 400 Dual Preamp (Custom built)
XR 600E
XR 400B
Generation ACM 6 string
And some more stuff Image

Bob <font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Bob Knight on 13 June 2006 at 07:30 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 9:01 am
by Michael Haselman
That's a lot of Peavey stuff, Bob. I've got a Triumph 60 that I got in '90. Just retubed it with JJ's and put an Eminence speaker in it and it sounds marvelous. Not to mention a brand new NV 112 that is working great.

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Posted: 13 Jun 2006 9:39 am
by David Mason
My immediate thought was to look around the room for cell phones, wallwart power supplies, fax machines etc. Then look around the neighborhood for garage door openers, satellite dishes etc. A noise that operates completely independant of your playing is likely to have an independant cause? Could somebody be running a hairdryer on the same power line, is your refrigerator turning on and off, etc. etc. To the best of my knowledge, a surge suppressor is not the same as a dedicated power supply - does your TV ever fuzz up, do your radios fuzz out? It could even be your neighbor's refrigerator, if it's coming through the power line.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by David Mason on 13 June 2006 at 10:47 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 9:47 am
by Frank Estes
No way is the Nashville 112 junk! Tell us about the "junk" you have connected to it first...All of Mike's troubleshooting steps should be followed first...

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 11:31 am
by Rick Garrett
Hope you figure out your amp problem whatever it might be BUT using the word "junk" hardly describes one of the best steel amps around today. Good luck

Rick

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 3:49 pm
by Rodney Garrison
Ask me if PEAVEY will go the extra mile toward CUSTOMER SERVICE . They will fight you for a $11.00 shipping chg. over a speaker warranty. GREAT PRODUCTS , GREAT PRICES. POOR CORPORATE POLICES.


Rodney N. Garrison

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 6:43 pm
by John Bechtel
Rodney;
Will Peavey go the ‘extra~mile’, towards “Customer~Service’? Inquiring minds would like to know the length of that mile!
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Posted: 14 Jun 2006 1:25 pm
by Mike Brown
I get the crazy feeling that I am back to square one on this. My toll free number is 1-877-732-8391, ext. 1180.
Mike Brown
Peavey USA<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Mike Brown on 14 June 2006 at 02:28 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 14 Jun 2006 2:43 pm
by Rodney Garrison
Mike, You and I discussed my issue a few years ago. This issue was resolved by my dealer here in Texas. I still stand that Peavey has Great Products and Great Prices. I own 6 units that have the Peavy Logo. I never counted them before. How bout' the rest of you? How many Peavey products do you have?
RG

Posted: 14 Jun 2006 3:17 pm
by Steve Hinson
...eight Peaveys...four steel amps,three cabinets,and a tube stereo power amp...it's been 30 years and I am a very satisfied Peavey customer!

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Posted: 15 Jun 2006 5:18 am
by Mike Brown
Rodney, I'm afraid that I'm like a lot of people, ie; I have the CRS disease. What are you referring to.................specifically?

Posted: 15 Jun 2006 6:07 am
by Bill Crook
Hey Mike...............

Don't sweat the one or two negative post about "Peavey" Products. There is NO other manafacturer that is more responsive to the customer needs and wishes that you are !!

The Steel community is very much in tune with the care,customer support and many different products you have supported over the years for us. (Like my 1974 "Sessons 400,which is still runnun' in top condition) How many other Companys still support a 30+ year amp.

Keep up the good work and we WIll stand by you.

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Posted: 15 Jun 2006 6:18 am
by Darvin Willhoite
Here's a picture of part of my amp collection, and you can see a lot of Peavey logos. They make the most reliable, and reasonably priced amps, guitars and sound equipment of any manufacturer today, in my opinion. And they have a great customer service department.

And speaking of Peavey guitars, the last time I checked, I have around 30 of them. They are mostly older ones, I have one of every factory color of the T-60's and four T-40 basses that match four of them. They are good quality instruments, and the prices are still very reasonable compared to other instruments where you pay mostly for the name.
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Posted: 15 Jun 2006 9:53 am
by Mike Brown
Thank you for your support of our products. I am aware that many of you own 3,4,5,6,7, and 8 of our amps. But, at the same time I try to respond to any and all "questionable" comments pertaining to Peavey Electronics. I don't have to do this. I could just be "passive" about it like another company that I know of, but I would like to know what Rodney Garrison is referring to.

Rodney?

Posted: 15 Jun 2006 10:46 am
by Brad Sarno
I've had nothing but the finest service from Peavey. Their parts dep't has been incredible friendly. One time I just needed a few parts worth under $5, and they simply mailed them to me, no charge, no postage. I don't believe that it's their policy to do that, but they tend to lean on the easy going, friendly side of things from my experience. Even the service/tech guys have been more than happy to speak with me and advise me on electronic issues. Peavey is still tops in my book when it comes to service from a large manufacturer.

Brad