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Topic: B/W or E130? |
thurlon hopper
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Elizabethtown Pa. USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2005 3:09 am |
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Have an E-130 sitting and loafing and wondered if it would be compatible with my N-1000? Would like the opinion of someone who has tried this, before o go taking things apart. My N-1000 is nice with the stock speaker and i'm wondering if the change would be an exercise in futility.
How much power loss did you get with the 8 ohm E-130? Appreciate your opinion(s). TJH |
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David Doggett
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Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 14 Oct 2005 6:33 am
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| Thurlon, what's the power rating of an E130? Peavey ditched the D130 and K130 because they couldn't handle the power of their steel amps. And that was with the 200 watt NV400. The NV1000 is 300 watts. I would think it could easily blow an E130, unless it is much more heavy duty than the Ds and Ks. |
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Brad Sarno
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St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2005 7:53 am
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Even a 4-ohm E130 should do ok if you don't go nuts with the low bass. That's the standard speaker in the Webb which is rated at 220 watts. They seem to hold up well in the Webbs. An 8 ohm E130 should quite safe. They're VERY heavy, but also far more capable of high power than either the D or K 130.
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John Bechtel
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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 14 Oct 2005 5:42 pm
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I never could understand and probably never will, but; if it ain’t broke, why fix it?
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Curt Langston
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Posted 16 Oct 2005 3:19 pm
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Thurlon, in my experience, the E-130 is a "darker" sounding speaker. Not quite as bright as a BW. I would not change them.
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 16 Oct 2005 4:25 pm
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| On the other hand, some people complain that the NV1000 is too mid-rangey. Maybe a darker speaker would cure that. Who knows, you might like it. Some of us would be interested to hear how your experiment works out. |
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Mike Brown
From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2005 11:48 am
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| "Darker"????? |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 17 Oct 2005 12:06 pm
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| With all the R & D Peavey have done on steel amps over the years -- if the E-130 was the right speaker for the NV1000 it would be in there wouldn't it ????? |
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Mark Herrick
From:
Bakersfield, CA
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Posted 17 Oct 2005 5:01 pm
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Also note that the power rating may be for use in a closed-back cabinet.
I recently bought a K-130 from a forumite and he included the original owners manual for the speaker. The power rating was for something around 125 watts, but that was for use in a closed-back cabinet. There was a note in the literature about not applying more than about 65 watts in an open-backed cabinet...
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Curt Langston
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Posted 17 Oct 2005 5:34 pm
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Yes. Darker. To me the BW sounds much clearer, or "brighter" if you will. Not to flame any speaker, just my opinion. To me the E-130 is not as "crisp" or "clear" as the BW. I have used both, so I thought it appropriate to respond. I did not want to use the word "muddy" for the E-130, but oh well. I guess it does not matter, since they are not in production any more. The BW is hard to beat for steel. IMHO. Of course, I am PRO Peavey! 
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 17 Oct 2005 7:59 pm
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| Thats curious Curt. My observation has been just the opposite. The E-130 JBL is about the clearest, brightest speaker that I've heard. I found the BW to be warmer. Go figure. |
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Tim Bridges
From:
Hoover, Alabama, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2005 4:21 am
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| I play through 2 E-130 cabs 8 ohms, but I only push them with 200 watts each. I believe the E-130's are rated for 200 watts; however, like Brad said, it depends on how you push the speakers. I also believe the E-130's are brighter than the BW at comparable settings. I AB'd the same speakers and that's what I heard. I wanted to brighten things up a bit. With that said, it all sounds different with different ears. |
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Mike Brown
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Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2005 5:44 am
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Of course, both speakers would have to be compared using the same power amp, preamp and speaker cabinet and using the same steel guitar, ie; level playing fields.
Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation
Anyway, thanks for your support of Peavey products. |
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2005 6:08 am
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I once swapped out an E130 from my Webb and dropped in a BW. The BW sounded great in there, but was definitely a mellower, warmer sound on top. The midranges are a bit different too and maybe that's what was meant by the BW being brighter. There is a peak in the BW that is part of its character. Also, the BW really does change after it has broken in and softened up, so it's important to note that when auditioning a speaker. A fresh BW is not a good read compared to one that's had lots of play for a few months or years. After breaking in and softening up, the sound of a BW gets smoother and sweeter.
The E130 has that bright JBL sound, but since it's a ceramic magnet, not Alnico like the D and K130, it has even more crisp brightness to the top end. In some situations, it's too much. My biggest gripe about the E130 is that it's SO heavy with that giant magnet. There are a lot of situations where I'd prefer the BW. It has a lot to do with matching the amp and cabinet and guitar to the right speaker.
It really is hard to beat the tone of a D130 or K130, but they do blow so easily if overpowered, especially with lots of low frequencies. The BW and the E130 are so rugged. You can still blow them, but you really gotta be woofin' to do it.
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