The Steel Guitar Forum

Can any one inform me as to the type of speakers that an old [ mid 60's] Show Bud amp used. It came with two 12's, but they were gone when I got the amp. This amp has the usual pre amp tubes, and 6x 6L6GT out put tubes. Cant find model or searl # on unit. It has red tolex, watt meter, slider type controls , dual inputs, and completly rebuilt.. I put alum. cone 12's in it, but boys they sound really bad. I would like to know what a good replacement speaker would be.... thanks ,,,,,Jennings,,,,,,,,,


Play steel for the angelic sound of it.

------------------
EMMONS D10 10-10 profex 2 deltafex ne1000 pv1000, pv 31 bd eq, +

Early '60s would have been JBL, you might want to try the Altec 417.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by chas smith on 05 October 2004 at 08:54 AM.]</p></FONT>

I think the Sho~Bud amp with the meter and the sliders was from the early-mid 70's. The common complaint in those days was that the sliders always broke off and you had to stick a screwdriver, car key, or fingerpick in the slot to adjust them. If yours still has the sliders it's a rare bird, fer sure. I also think they used some no-name speakers in those puppies.

------------------
Herb's Steel Guitar Pages
Texas Steel Guitar Association

Yeah what Herb says is quite correct. I had one of these if it's the one your talking about that is called Sho~Bud Twin Tube....and is an all tube amp with 2 12" speakers and yes they were some no-name speaker that sounded kinda shrill...but replaced with a couple of JBL K-120's and yeeee haaaa it was Wonderful.
Now finding the K-120 is a whole nother story..ha...but that is the JBL that would give that particular amp the glory it deserves.
Ricky

Thanks Guys, for the prompt response to my querie... Ricky, What would be a good sub for tje JBL120'S? I Was thinking , Jenson or Black Widow, but it may be cost prohibitive. Any suggestions????
Yes the slider control were a mess, to say the least..It is missing the knobs, and one slider is broken but still useable...I baught this amp for $90.00 a couple yrs ago and all tubes were bad or missing, the power supply was bad, screen resistors burned to powder, and an all arround piece of junk. But I have it playing, sounds great except for the speakers....won't carry steel, lead guitar and bass and rythm is good...I would like to find a good aftermarket spkr without having to mortguage the farm again... any suggestions will be appreciated..... Jennings

and thanks again fellows....

------------------
EMMONS D10 10-10 profex 2 deltafex ne1000 pv1000, pv 31 bd eq, +

WEll sure; the Blue-back jensons would be alright. But I really don't care for any speaker other than D or K JBL's; so I may be the wrong guy to ask...ha.
Ricky

Hey Ricky, are you talking about that Sho-Bud amp you sold me? I didn't think those were JBL's in there, they did look like no name brand, but I'd have to get another look.

I retubed that thing with tubes from eurotube.com, and, man, it sounds great. Very lively, love tube amps.

I tried an Eminence DeltaLite, but went back to the speakers that were in the amp. If puting other speakers in it made it sound better, it would be a killer amp, at least for me.

GFI with a TT, by the way.

Rich yes that very amp. Unfortunatly I don't own 2 K-120's as I borrowed them to see if it made a diff...and it did...but of course I had to give them back when I sold it to you..ha.
Ricky

I have basically the same amplifier, except mine is the "Twin Transistor". It has a 15" JBL K-130 in it. When I got it all of the sliders were broke off. I modified it by taking the board out, replacing the spacers with half-sized spacers and then putting it back together. That gave me about 3/8" to put new knobs on. It's not a bad amp but it is very basic with little to no fidelity. I believe that no matter what speaker you put in it, you will not be satisfied.

------------------
ShoBud D-12 6 & 10, Matchbox, Profex II, Session 500

Thanks for the replys fellas.. Carl do you know the Wattage and Frequency response of your 15" JBL? I sure would like to know, My books and catalogs do not list it,,And you must have a problem Carl, The amp is basically a Williamson P/P design and it should reproduce faithfully the signal put into it by the transducer.....Mine does with a Signal Generator and Scope it is Flat form 50 to 9 khz.......at 1 khz square wave. Linear gain also without clipping.....
But I still dont know what rhe original Speakers Were........ Thank again Fellows......Jennings... P.S. Some one please giv me he specs on the original spkrs... JW>>>>>>>>>>

------------------
EMMONS D10 10-10 profex 2 deltafex ne1000 pv1000, pv 31 bd eq, +

A lot of "no name" speakers used in amps of that period were made by Utah, Oxford, or Jensen. I think a D130-F (rated at 100 watts) would be a good choice for that ol' Sho Bud amp. Two 12" speakers makes the amp heavier, and it also costs more. Of course, the Black Widow would be the best choice if durability is a consideration. (You might "cook" a D130-F with that amp if you pushed it too much.)

If I'm not badly mistaken, Jim Evans designed that amp for Sho-Bud. It is a great design very simular to the old Evans tube amps. JBL's would be a good choice for speakers but it would be rather heavy to carry.

------------------
Sierra Session and MSA Classic Guitars, Nashville 400, Session 400, and Evans FET 500 HiVolt, and Gretsch Nashville Pro Steel Amps, Keith Hilton Digital Sustain pedal and Digital Sustain Box .
Harold Parris email hparris9@aol.com