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Here's an unusual non pedal guitar

Posted: 6 Dec 2001 1:55 am
by chas smith
This is an instrument I made about 8 years ago mostly out of the junk that was in my back yard, it has a dozen bass strings with 4 EMG pickups, 2 at each end. The steel plate (thin sheet) is 24" in diameter and the tallest rod is 60". This is welded to a cylinder that is welded to a brass Dobro body (that was a reject when I welded for Dobro) that is welded to a steel thin wall 2x4 that feeds a "folded horn" resonator. Usually I bow the rods and strings.
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Posted: 6 Dec 2001 2:59 am
by Michael Johnstone
I've played this guitar and I'm telling you it sounds just like a 66 PP Emmons.....

Posted: 6 Dec 2001 5:28 am
by P Gleespen
Holy Guacamole! Do you have any recordings of that puppy?

This instrument is really beautiful.


Posted: 6 Dec 2001 7:09 am
by Chris DeBarge
With this machine we could, dare I say it, RULE THE WORLD!!! (insert maniacal laughter)

That's cool, would love a sound clip.

Posted: 6 Dec 2001 7:20 am
by Paul Warnik
Chas-is this the one you call "tweed box" I guess this is one of the featured "new music" instruments on "Nikkowolverine" you are a real "Wildman"

Posted: 6 Dec 2001 7:44 am
by Chris Walke
Very interesting, Dr Frankenstein.

Send that thing to Tom Waits. I hear his favorite instruments are the ones whose names he can't pronounce and the ones he doesn't know how to play.

So...what DO you call it? And what does it sound like?

Posted: 6 Dec 2001 9:08 am
by Ted Smith
Chas....UNREAL!! That wins them all! Printed and going on my office wall. Teisco Del Rey (aka Dan Fort) HAS to see that.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Ted Smith on 06 December 2001 at 09:11 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 6 Dec 2001 10:50 am
by CrowBear Schmitt
your Axe is really out there Chas ! Image
i'm sure it sounds as impressive as it looks.
Got any sample downloads ?
Play on, Play on.... Image

Posted: 6 Dec 2001 11:11 am
by Larry Bell
Looks like a shrine for the Ark of the Covenant.
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Posted: 6 Dec 2001 1:35 pm
by Ray Jenkins
Isn't that the world series trophy on top of it?

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Posted: 6 Dec 2001 11:43 pm
by chas smith
Thank you all for the nice comments, it's called 'Bass Tweed', I think it sounds 'pretty' although it can produce some pretty aggressive sounds with a minimum of coaxing. I've released two albums 'Nikko Wolverine' and 'Aluminum Overcast' using this and my other instruments on Cold Blue Records http://www.coldbluemusic.com/pages/newreleases.html
Also Frog Peak has Nikko. Amazon is supposed to have them in classical, but they seem to be unbelievably disorganized.

You should know that this is NOT traditional music. Oh, and not the world series trophy, the Dodgers didn't do so good this year.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by chas smith on 06 December 2001 at 11:44 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 7 Dec 2001 2:27 am
by Frank
Just Have one question there Chas. At what frequency range does she launch.
An "Object De Art" no doupt.
Ya`ll take care....Frank.

Posted: 13 Dec 2001 7:28 pm
by Marty Holmes
Oh Dear,
This is the funniest looking contraption I have ever seen.How in the worrld did you get a idea to make something like this.I got to go I am starting to see green snakes on the ceiling.

Posted: 13 Dec 2001 8:24 pm
by Sage
Not really an "objet d'art", most of those you can't fire up and conjure green ceiling snakes, or evoke dining in a shark cage with the ex-wife. A no nonsense musical assault platform,(beautifuly wrought) which has also brought tears to these eyes.
T. Sage Harmos
P.S.- Support your loco steel player- buy nikkowolverine.

Posted: 13 Dec 2001 9:17 pm
by Bill Fulbright
Anyone every heard of a composer named Harry Partch?

Harry made instruments of his own design much like this one, devised notation, and created symphonies with them.

Look him up sometime... He was another breed... He was recognized as a 20th Century composer... especially in the late 60's and early 70's.

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Posted: 14 Dec 2001 10:59 am
by Tony Orth
I dunno.....

Still looks like a cheese slicer to me.

Posted: 14 Dec 2001 12:01 pm
by Sage
Partch's cheese slicer was the Surrogate Kithara- http://www.eyeneer.com/CCM/Composers/Partch/Instruments/surrogate.kithara.html
Mike Perlowin did a great article on this in the old SGW magazine. Harry Partch was into wood and glass, Chas Smith is a man of metal.


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Posted: 14 Dec 2001 4:37 pm
by Donny Hinson
Chas, the strings don't look like they have any "arch"...can you bow them singly, or do you bow them all at once? I assume the little "sliders" on the rods are there for tuning purposes? That'd be my guess, anyway. I still say it looks more like a work of art than an instrument. Image

If Frank Lloyd Wright had had the same inclinations as Shot Jackson, I guess this is what his steel might have looked like!

Posted: 14 Dec 2001 7:57 pm
by Ray Montee
All I'd like to know about this most unique instruments is:
When you play Orange Blossom Special on it, is it easier to do than on a PP Emmons?
Does it stay in tune in a Hot/Cold TV studio?
How long does it require to tear-down and set-up for a gig?
How does it weigh?
What does the case look like?

Inquiring minds want to know.......

Posted: 14 Dec 2001 10:38 pm
by chas smith
<SMALL>When you play Orange Blossom Special on it, is it easier to do than on a PP Emmons?</SMALL>
When I play Orange Blossom Special on it, it's unrecognizable.
<SMALL>Does it stay in tune in a Hot/Cold TV studio?</SMALL>
If you ever get to play it, you'll realize that that's not an issue. Actually, the bottom photograph was taken at Village Recorders in West LA at its first recording session. It was for a film score to "Flesh and Bone" with Dennis Quaid, Meg Ryan, James Caan and a then unknown actress, Gwyneth Paltrow in 1993
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>How long does it require to tear-down and set-up for a gig?
How does it weigh?
What does the case look like?</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Moving it around is an event, it doesn't like to travel. The cartage company was 'into it' and they were very gentle. It weighs as much as it looks like it weighs and the setup only involves putting the extentions back on the appropriate rods.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL> the strings don't look like they have any "arch"...can you bow them singly, or do you bow them all at once? I assume the
little "sliders" on the rods are there for tuning purposes? </SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Most of the music for the ambient sections of a film score is in whole tones and longer. When I bow a string it's usually just the bottom one. What gets the workout is bowing the rods and depending on where I bow each one and how hard I bow it makes a huge difference in what pitch it makes and how pretty or aggressive that note is. These kinds of instruments are not adept at playing traditional melodies and since there's a whole orchestra available that's really good at that, these things are more usefull in other areas. The sliders on this one are set collars that clamp down on the spring pins that are used as couplings for the rod extensions. On another instrument I made, they were used to tune some of the rods and were also strategically placed on different nodal points on each rod to calm down some of the
"splash".<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by chas smith on 14 December 2001 at 10:43 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 22 Dec 2001 10:33 pm
by Ron
I can tell --You dont have enough to do.

Ron

Posted: 23 Dec 2001 4:38 pm
by chas smith
Well for starters, I don't have a tv. Actually I go nonstop from 9 or 10am to 1 or 2am daily.