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Garry Vanderlinde
From: CA
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Posted 14 Feb 2004 12:12 pm
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This has happened to me twice now where I've set-up my rig and no sound or a very muffled, crackling sound came out of the amp. After checking all the cords I plugged the steel directly into the amp with the same result. Finally after hitting the strings a few times the amp pops on strongly. From then on it works perfect the rest of the night. Has anyone had this happen to them and have any suggestions. Thanks |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Feb 2004 12:45 pm
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First, try another instrument in it (to make sure it's not a problem with your steel). If it still exhibits a problem, it's probably just a cold solder joint in the amp somewhere...a simple problem to fix, but sometimes a bear to find! |
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Ron Sodos
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2004 3:00 pm
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As long as you guys are talking about Nashville 1000 I need feedback. I posted a message recently and got multiple answers and emails. I bought a new nashville 1000 2 months ago. I have played a Session 400 for years and decided to get something new and more powerful. In 2 months of using this amp I have never even come close to getting a good tone that i am used to getting with the 400. The tone is bassy and fat with not enough highs. I am told by all the guys, lows way up at +9, mids way down at -6 or more. Highs at 1 or so etc. When I set my amp that way It sounds bottomy and awful. So I start adjusting from there. By the time I am through lows are -6, mids are 1 or so, and highs and presence are almost pinned. It sounds better but still not good. I am used to a crisp clean tone and it seems that no matter how I set it I hate it. Too bassy and fat. Can I get more feedback. I am ready to buy something else.......  [This message was edited by Ron Sodos on 14 February 2004 at 03:03 PM.] |
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Garry Vanderlinde
From: CA
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Posted 14 Feb 2004 4:05 pm
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Thanks Donny, I didn't think of that it might be a inst. problem and not the amp. I'll try my Tele. through it next time. I had been using my steel for a few days in the house with another amp for practice with no problems but maybe by packing and un-packing it in the case caused a short.
Ron, I used to play through a Peavey LTD 400 but I've been very happy with my 1000 since I got it in Sept. 2000. I'm pretty sure my problem is one of maintenance since I've put many miles and hours of use on it. I just need to figure out what went bad. Do you still have the 400 to compare tone with, or any other amp to see if you can get a decent tone out of it and maybe find the problem is in the instrument and not the amp also? |
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David Cobb
From: Chanute, Kansas, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2004 10:54 pm
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Your problem sounds like something in the circuitry, but for what it's worth, ck. the 110v where it meets the chassis.
They need to be pushed on securely.
[This message was edited by David Cobb on 14 February 2004 at 10:55 PM.] |
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Anders Brundell
From: Falun, Sweden
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Posted 15 Feb 2004 5:11 am
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That happens all the time with my Session 500 if I don't loop a cord between pre out and main in on the rear panel. Peavey support gave me that advice many years ago, and it functions in this very case. My guess is a cold solder or some other poor galvanic contact somewhere in the signal path.
That manufacture quality problem ought to have been noticed and corrected by Peavey's management long ago, and I'm a bit astonished that this hasn't been done.
Anders[This message was edited by Anders Brundell on 15 February 2004 at 02:51 PM.] |
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Bill Myrick
From: Pea Ridge, Ar. (deceased)
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Posted 15 Feb 2004 6:51 am
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I recently had the exact same thing happen and I finally traced it to a faulty tone switch on my Sho-Bud. If you touched it the amp would pop loud and go to working. I replaced the switch with a simple one from Radio Shack and couldn't believe the improvement in the pick up quality. It was probably "hurting" the sound for years. |
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2004 9:24 am
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Anders,
A Session 500 is at least 20 years old. If you patched a shielded cable between the PRE AMP OUT and the POWER AMP IN jack and the amp started working, I recommend that you either spray some contact cleaner on that jack or replace the jack. The contacts on the jack are either rusty or dirty, or the switching contacts of that jack are faulty and need replacing. I don't think that this was something that was missed by our Quality Control department.
Same thing with the 1000 amp. Try connecting a short shielded cable between the PRE EQ PATCH points, the POST EQ PATCH points and also the PRE AMP OUT and POWER AMP IN jacks. The PRE return jack, the POST return jack and the POWER AMP IN jacks are all switching types and may not be functioning properly. This is just a suggestion that you can use to assist in determining what the problem is.
Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation |
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Anders Brundell
From: Falun, Sweden
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Posted 16 Feb 2004 1:50 pm
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Excuse me for a rash conclusion and false accusation, Mike! I didn't think of any other explanation than a cold solder, and I really don't have your knowledge of electronics.
Sorry for this!
Anders
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Joe Alterio
From: Irvington, Indiana
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 6:06 am
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Ron:
You are not alone.....I had the same issues with my N1000. I had to pretty much keep the treble and presence controls at +12 ~ +15, the mids at -15 (@800) and the bass around 0. The treble was satisfactory at that level, but the mids were too much....too much for me that I decided to sell the amp.
I found the N1000 to be quite similar to the N400.....now, a friend of mine has the Session 400 (like you) and he absolutely loves it. He also has the N400 (and has heard my N1000) and he says there is no comparison to the old Sessions. I heard him play through his Session 400 just this past weekend at a gig, and it sounded fantastic. Clear, bright.....WOW!
If everyone catches on, I can see those old Session amps starting to climb in value....
Joe |
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Ray Minich
From: Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 6:42 am
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The same thing that makes grandma's silver tea set turn black in a few months, can be the culprit behind contact tarnishing in connectors and jacks. Believe it or not it's airborne hydrogen sulfide. |
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 7:53 am
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Anders, my point was that any amplifier needs general maintenance every few years. That's all. My post was in not critical in nature, only helpful. |
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Anders Brundell
From: Falun, Sweden
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 1:29 pm
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Yes, Mike - the tone in your post isn't critical but quite nice, but I feel the tone in my reply was critical when I took for granted that Peavey was neglecting a known quality problem, and I feel that my opinion was wrong. I´m simply a bit self-critical for that reason.
Anders
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Mel Mandville
From: Bellevue, Washington, USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 1:51 pm
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Hi Guys,
I'm playing my Carter S10 (stock Geoge L pickup) through a Nash 1000 set around Jeff Newmans recomended settings...Bass 3 oclock, Mids rolled off a little around 800k, presence and treble around 2. It sounds great and if I cranked the treble all the way up...... I could take someones head off for sure.... I really like the amp and it has lots O headroom. I'm basically playing in a Rock outfit that likes it loud and it keeps up no problem.
I haven' been playing steel for a long time and this is my first nice rig... but so far so good....
Mel
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Garry Vanderlinde
From: CA
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 8:19 pm
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Hey Mike,
How 'bout if I just spit in the back and whomp on it? It worked for Andy![This message was edited by Garry Vanderlinde on 17 February 2004 at 08:41 PM.] |
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Mark van Allen
From: Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 9:09 pm
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Gary, one other thing to look at: make sure the remote switch jack is fastened tightly to the chassis. Apparently if that isn't grounded completely, the amp behaves just as you descibe. Mine did, easy fix... I don't understand the posts about radically deficient tone. Using anywhere near the recommended settings, My 1000 sounds great. Just a matter of tweazing for room and tone.
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Stop by the Steel Store at: www.markvanallen.com
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John Floyd
From: R.I.P.
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 11:03 pm
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I know a lot of players who use the NV-1000 and every one of them gets a great sound out out of that amp. Thats why I decided on The PX-300's Same amp minus the Preamp.
When I had one of mine to blow after only 1 week. I knew it was the exception rather than the rule.
I know one player who bought one of the 1st NV-1000's and he has been using it for several years. It sounds great each and every time and he Uses it on gigs several times a week.
My point is, that there are a lot of NV-1000's out there and you can't manufacture that many without one or two having a problem. Peavey has always backed up their products 100%.
In my case, I received another new amp from the dealer and have had no problems since. Couldn't be happier in my Peavey Experience |
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Garry Vanderlinde
From: CA
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Posted 15 Mar 2004 8:44 pm
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Thanks to everyone for the help in tracking down the cause of the problem. I checked everything I could from a loose power cord to the loose jacks (which every one was!). Finally attaching a short, shielded cord between the POST EQ patch points as suggested by Mike Brown. It solved the distorted crackling problem. So what do I do now? Spray some contact cleaner in the jack hole or maybe spray it on the jack and work it in and out a few times or replace the jacks or ??? |
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John Bechtel
From: Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Mar 2004 10:41 pm
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Gary;
When I was using the Nashville 1000's, the best settings I found and that a lot of guys around here got from Lloyd Green's advice were:
Pre-Gain (4)
Lows +6dB
Mid –10 1/2dB
Shift 750/800Hz
High +3dB
Pres. +3dB
Reverb 3 3/4
Master 8 to 10
BTW, The last time I used these settings it was the best sound that I've ever had using a Peavey amp, and I received many compliments from lots of well known Nashville-pickers!
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Franklin PSG D–10 (9 &
Fender ’49–’50 T–8 Custom
Fender ’65 Reissue Twin-Reverb Custom 15”
http://community.webtv.net/KeoniNui/BigJohnBechtels
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 16 Mar 2004 6:52 am
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Gary, our techs will take a look at it and repair as necessary. You can send the chassis, reverb harness and reverb to me here at Peavey. Our address is;
Peavey Service Center
Attn; Mike Brown
412 Hwy. 80 East
Meridian, MS 39301
I can be reached toll free in North America at 1-877-732-8391 should you have questions. I recommend that you print this Forum post and include it with your chassis.
Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation |
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Garry Vanderlinde
From: CA
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Posted 17 Mar 2004 7:28 pm
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Thanks Mike. It will be hard for me to part with this amp because it sounds so good. It is definitely the best sounding amp I've ever used and it will be missed. Essentially by the people who have to sit and listen to me play. I'll send it out at the end of this month. Do you prefer any delivery service over another? |
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Ernie Pollock
From: Mt Savage, Md USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2004 11:30 am
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I just tried a NV 1000 out that a student of mine brought me to see if I could get a good sound on it. to my dismay, I could not find a good sound like the old Sessions or Nashvilles, let alone with the mod pods put in the older ones. I could not believe that NV 1000 - Give us our old 400's back, also the one I tried was built too B I G ! Thats quite a disappoint me since I have always love the ol 400's. If ya got an older one, hang on to it!!
Ernie PS: one things fer sure, if theres a fix for those amps PV will come up with!
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Gene Jones
From: Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 27 Mar 2004 3:40 pm
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I used to have that problem occasionally with my tube amps, but dropping the amp from two or three inches onto the bandstand would bring the amp to full power..... so far, it hasn't happened with any of my solid state amps!
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Bill Holly
From: Pineville, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2004 4:25 pm
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I had a problem, late last year, with a new Nashville 1000 I had purchased from Scotty's. I called him and within two days I had received a replacement "chassis" with instructions to install the replacement, put the old "chassis" in the same box and send it back and he would return it to Peavey, all at his expense. Can't beat that kind of service. Thanks, Scotty and Peavey!
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Ron Sodos
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2004 9:18 pm
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Up above John Bechtel has his settings for his NV 1000. The pre gain is at 4 and the Master gain at 8 to 10. If I put my amp set like that I would be so loud I would be heard back in Tennesee from out here in the high desert of New Mexico. I can't get my amp over 3 to 4 on Pre Gain and 5 to 6 on the Master without blowing my brains out. Either the volume pedal has the volume backed off or somewhere else in the effects etc. What do you other guys think? [This message was edited by Ron Sodos on 27 March 2004 at 09:19 PM.] |
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