Finally, My new EVANS AMP arrived, but I need help with the

Abe Stoklasa · Post by **Abe Stoklasa** » 23 Dec 2002 3:57 pm

Hey guys. I can't get the sound I want (Or any good sound for that matter). I know its not the Amp. All the pros use them. I'm not even getting close to the sound I had on an old CRATE amp. I'm in desperate need of help. Is anyone willing to give their setup? I would appreciate it. Thanks.

P. S., Does anyone know Mr. Hughey's settings? I know I have a totally different steel, but It would be a good starting point.

I play an MSA Vintage XL, if it helps

Jeff Peterson · Post by **Jeff Peterson** » 23 Dec 2002 5:00 pm

Mr. Hughey's settings won't make you sound like him. Turn a few knobs and get after it. The best advise I could give is to start at 'flat' and go from there. You want a starting point? Try '0'. Turn them knobs 'till it sounds good to you.
Oh, by the way, all pros do not use Evans amps....not even close. Easy boys, just makin' an observation/comment/judgement call.[This message was edited by Jeff Peterson on 23 December 2002 at 05:03 PM.][This message was edited by Jeff Peterson on 23 December 2002 at 05:04 PM.]

Abe Stoklasa · Post by **Abe Stoklasa** » 23 Dec 2002 6:24 pm

I know it won't make me sound like him, nor do I want to sound like him. I want to sound like me. But, I need somewhere to start.

I've tried doing that. I even set it to the examples. I think their might me something wrong with it. The overtones (Distortion) Are louder than the true notes. That's when the Scruff (Distort) is totally off. It even distorts really bad on the examples. I was wondering also what's going on. And, I noticed, there is a really noticable hiss when treble is turned just slightly on, and it grows when you hit the strings. What is wrong with this thing?

Michael T. Hermsmeyer · Post by **Michael T. Hermsmeyer** » 23 Dec 2002 7:21 pm

If your knobs have a boost and a cut (numbers on both sides of 0) then start at 0
Otherwise start at 5

Or check out my answer to this post here:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum11/HTML/003167.html

Michael T.

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UTILITY MAN PRODUCTIONS
'73 EMMONS D10 FATBACK, '92 EMMONS D10 LASHLEY LEGRANDE,
'85 DOBRO 60DS, '95 DOBRO F60S,
'95 MELOBAR CUSTOM, 1955 FENDER TRIPLE NECK STRINGMASTER. EVANS, FENDER, PEAVEY,
and MESA BOOGIE Amps.

[This message was edited by Michael T. Hermsmeyer on 23 December 2002 at 07:23 PM.]

Jimmie Misenheimer · Post by **Jimmie Misenheimer** » 23 Dec 2002 7:34 pm

The two happiest days of my life - - When I got one, and when I GOT RID OF IT!!!

Jimmie

Curt Shoemaker · Post by **Curt Shoemaker** » 24 Dec 2002 4:46 am

Hi Abraham,

Sounds like you might have a problem in the Amp. itself. Please contact Evans,and talk with Ed.I've had the new 200 for almost a year,and it is one of the finest Amps. built today.It is quiet at any volume,and produces a great tone.
Curt

Abe Stoklasa · Post by **Abe Stoklasa** » 24 Dec 2002 1:50 pm

Well, I think I figured it out. I replaced one of my cables and it works fine now! I'm such a moron. hehe

Sorry about wasting your time, guys. I've never sounded better with this amp. It's the best investment I ever made.

I've played through the Peavey Nashville 1000's and all that, but when a guy plays through an EVAN's, after playing through a Peavey, the Peavey sounds just totally false. It's like comparing a river to an ocean. Just my opinion.

Post by **b0b** » 24 Dec 2002 1:53 pm

Moved to 'Electronics' section.

Damir Besic · Post by **Damir Besic** » 24 Dec 2002 2:37 pm

Well,"you get what you paid for",thats what they say.I don`t know how much Webb or Evans amps cost,but for a road work horse with a decent sound, I think Peavey is still the best option.Brand new Nashville 1000 for $700 (at Bobbe`s) or used Session 500 for $400 will give you a lot of music for the money.I just can`t afford amp for $1800 or more.

Ivan Posa · Post by **Ivan Posa** » 24 Dec 2002 5:01 pm

I have an SE200 Evans and a PV NV 1000. I have a BL 710 on my P/P and this p/up does not seem to work as well thro the Evans for me. It seems to like the NV 1000 parametric eq much better, yet the E66 on my Carter sounds great thro the Evans. I can remember Herb Steiner making a similar comment on an earlier post....IP

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Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 26 Dec 2002 7:20 am

One point that I have noticed when explaining the MID and SHIFT controls on either a Session 500, Nashville 400 and the Nashville 1000 is that these two controls interact with each other. A lot of players don't know this and it is very important to understand and know how to operate this circuit in order to obtain a pleasing sound. I have an article that will explain this circuit that is forthcoming. In the meantime, thanks for your support and if I can explain this to you "one on one", give me a call toll free at 1-877-732-8391.

Henry Matthews · Post by **Henry Matthews** » 29 Dec 2002 10:55 am

I've been playing an Evans for 20 years but I also play a Nashville 400 too and neither amps sound alike. I just switch back and forth when I get tired of one sound and go to the other. But here is some Evans settings that you might find useful. I play an Emmons p/p so they might differ from your guitar. Put the depth down, expand up, bass on 7, mid on 6 and treble on 1 and do not use the reverb in the Evans as to me it has a very harsh, midrange sound. I use a boss digital reverb pedal only but to me, any good digital reverb works well. I also run the reverb thru the effects patch on the amps and it seems to work alot better for me.---Henry

Michael T. Hermsmeyer · Post by **Michael T. Hermsmeyer** » 30 Dec 2002 2:07 am

Here is some of the info on the link from my earlier post. My rig may be very different from yours, but this might help you out some.
To really get a handle on your sound, I would like to know more about your rig.
Guitar, (MSA Classic XL), pickup(s),(stock I assume), pedal, effects, which Evans amp or preamp, cabinet(s) and speaker(s)?

Also, who are your favorite players, (John Hughey and etc...?)which players most closely match the tone you hear in your head (the tone you are searching for), and what styles of music do you most frequently play?

Also, do you use effects, and what type and brand?

A general rule of thumb is to start with all settings at "5" and all switches to "off", then experiment.

My favorite settings for an Evans DP2R or an ESPA, is as follows as used with an 1992 Emmons Lashley LeGrande with 1973 Emmons single coil in E9 and 1992 Emmons 108 humbucker in C6, Matchbro (off but in line, treble boosted slightly), Goodrich L120 volume, Boss RV-3 (delay only at 300-350ms, three repeats), All George L's .155 cable and plugs, input one of preamp, Alesis RA-100 Power Amp, Evans Tweed cabinets with 15" Eclipse Speakers:
Master (3)
Reverb (4-5) (DP2R only with external tank)ESPA has no internal reverb.
Depth (ON)
Expand (ON)
Bass (9)
Body (8)
Treble (3-4)
Volume (3)

Note: With the ESPA, I will use an Alesis Quadraverb GT for reverb, delay and some choruses, in the stereo effects loop and eliminate the Boss RV-3.

(Since your apparently using a combo amp, you won't need to worry about my power amp hook ups. But I will include it for those whom it might be of interest).

Also, instead of using the Alesis amp and Evans speaker cabs, you can run the output of the preamp to the power amp in jack of a Peavey Nashville or Session and adjust the eq's accordingly, or even into a direct box and house or recording console. I prefer speakers however. If I do go direct, I will most likely turn the expand switch off and cut the treble on the preamp and matchbro slightly.

I hope this helps, Thanks, God Bless,
Michael T.

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UTILITY MAN PRODUCTIONS
'73 EMMONS D10 FATBACK, '92 EMMONS D10 LASHLEY LEGRANDE,
'85 DOBRO 60DS, '95 DOBRO F60S,
'95 MELOBAR CUSTOM, 1955 FENDER TRIPLE NECK STRINGMASTER. EVANS, FENDER, PEAVEY,
and MESA BOOGIE Amps.

[This message was edited by Michael T. Hermsmeyer on 30 December 2002 at 02:11 AM.]

Larry R · Post by **Larry R** » 30 Dec 2002 9:14 pm

FOR A 14' X 19' CARPETED ROOM:

REVERB 4
BASS 8
DEPTH SWITCH "UP"
BODY 8
EXPAND SWITCH "DOWN"
TREBLE 2-3
VOLUMES:TO YOUR LIKING

SE200
MULLEN SD-10 WITH GEO. L 10-1 OR STOCK MULLEN PICKUP AND GOODRICH L-120. ADD BOSS RV-3 FOR ENHANCEMENT.