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Canopus Lap Steel?
Posted: 22 Sep 2001 6:50 pm
by Roger Shackelton
Does anyone on the forum own a Canopus lap steel guitar, Model YL-8s? How does it compare to other lap steel guitars?
Roger
Posted: 22 Sep 2001 10:07 pm
by George Keoki Lake
If it is of any help to you, I played a Canopus double neck model while in NZ last February and found it to be superb over my Fender triple custom. Very fine workmanship, excellent pickups and a real nice fat tone. I'd love to have one but they are rather pricey for my budget...besides, I'd probably be looking at alimony if I bought yet another guitar! (ha!)
Posted: 23 Sep 2001 12:41 pm
by HowardR
Once again, I find myself agreeing with Keoki. Nice full tone and a very well built steel. I don't know what wood is used, but it ain't light. This guitar is a work horse.
It appears to be in the Stringmaster design.
Posted: 23 Sep 2001 12:46 pm
by HowardR
As you can see, it has a 3 position pick up control in addition to the tone control. The tone control, BTW, has the most range I've experienced than on any other steel. There's the neck selector switch, and of course volume control. Nice hardware and strung through the body.
Posted: 23 Sep 2001 12:47 pm
by HowardR
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by HowardR on 23 September 2001 at 01:49 PM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 23 Sep 2001 1:01 pm
by HowardR
I forgot to mention, 24" scale.
So how does it compare to other steels? I'm not so experienced as to objectively compare a lot of brands. I did just sit down to a Stringmaster (24 1/2" scale). The Stringmaster is on the brighter side while the Canopus is more bassy. I would imagine that Hawaiian music might be best suited for the Canopus and swing/country on the Stringmaster. We all know that an accomplished player will sound great on either.
I will say that it is in the class of "the best" and that if you were inclined to purchase a Canopus, I believe that you would be quite happy with it. I know that the topic question was with regard to the YL - 8. Sorry that I can't help you with that model.
I don't quite know how old mine is. I did get it on ebay and I believe I got a very decent deal on it.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by HowardR on 23 September 2001 at 02:45 PM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 23 Sep 2001 5:59 pm
by Jody Carver
Since this thread was started I had been in touch with Yasu Kamira..He builds a fine guitar and the sound is typically Hawaiian.
It lacks the punch and bite of a Fender..in my opinion and the cost is high,but if thats the sound you prefer it may be worth looking into.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 22 September 2003 at 09:11 PM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 23 Sep 2001 6:27 pm
by Maurie Junod
Jody,
They advertise in our HSGA newsletter. I tried their URL but it didn't work. They
are located in Japan. However, their U.S.
contact is Scotty. You can't go wrong with
him.
Maurie
Posted: 23 Sep 2001 7:05 pm
by HowardR
If you go to Brad's Page of Steel, click on manufacturers of electric steels and Canopus is one of the manufacturers listed. You can get to their website by clicking on the hyperlink provided. They make a beautiful 8 string version of the gibson EH - 150.
Jody, Canopus is not your typical household name in the world of steel guitars. They're not vintage as far as I know. I've only seen one on ebay (which I have) and one at the ISGC in 1999, being played by Leonard T. Zinn. I believe that it is quite a popular brand that is favored in Hawaii.
Posted: 23 Sep 2001 8:03 pm
by Jody Carver
Edited as my comments were irelevant to this topic.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 22 September 2003 at 08:52 PM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 23 Sep 2001 8:55 pm
by George Keoki Lake
Some of the owner/players of Canopus in Hawai'i:
*(the late) Barney Isaacs
*Alan Akaka
*Casey Olsen
*Harold Hakuole
*Greg Sardinha
plus many others.
Yes, it is very popular with the Hawaiians.
Posted: 24 Sep 2001 3:24 am
by Gene Jones
Jody...Paul will have to be your "Lieutenant" as he speaks better Japanese than me....I'll drive the car.
Posted: 24 Sep 2001 3:45 am
by HowardR
I'll volunteer to share the driving, it's a long way to Japan.......
Posted: 24 Sep 2001 8:22 am
by Jody Carver
Gene,,,,Howard,,,
It will have to be a "Honda, Toyota, Suzuki,
or any "Jap Car" we cant ride in on the Harley Gene.. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 22 September 2003 at 08:54 PM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 24 Sep 2001 9:06 am
by Jody Carver
Hi Roger,,,,thanks for starting this thread.
Iam going to look into these guitars,,,they look real good.
Howard,,,thank you as well for the info on these guitars,,,I have one problem however.
Years ago,,,I was always introduced in the following manner.
Ladies and Gentlemen ,,,Here is Jody Carver & his "Big Fender" reffering to the quad or triple neck....
Here is my problem,,,,how would this sound if I were to buy a Canopus??
Ladies and Gentlemen ,,,,Here is Jody Carver
& his "Big Canopus" something dont sound right,,,do you know what I mean???
Wonder If they would build me a quad Canopus
then I would have the "biggest Canopus" known to mankind...what is your thoughts???
Posted: 24 Sep 2001 12:14 pm
by HowardR
Jody, I quote a lot of pithy sayings because they are apropos.
First off, "Size doesn't matter", ( I've heard that about other people). Just remember "it's not the size of your Canopus, it's what you do with it".
I have only seen double necks on the Canopus site, however, another saying in my industry is "for money, you can buy anything". I'm sure the good folks at the local Canopus shop will take this into consideration. Before you "rush the gate", try mine. If you ever get into NYC, let me know. I can take it in with me to the shop, along with an amp and you can play "Moon Over Maui" before you make a decision. I can also bring it to Norwalk if you are going. "Try before you buy".
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by HowardR on 24 September 2001 at 01:17 PM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 24 Sep 2001 4:19 pm
by Jody Carver
I have cleaned up my act since this thread was started. I was a "bad boy",,now you were saying ?
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 22 September 2003 at 08:17 PM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 24 Sep 2001 7:06 pm
by HowardR
Jody,Jody,Jody,.....phew! Never a dull moment when he's around.
Interesting that all of the Canopus steels are a 22 1/2" scale. Mine is a 24". I wonder if that's because it's an older model or perhaps it was made to order with that scale.
Anyhow, those are some healthy prices listed. I guess I did get a good buy ($650.00).
As I mentioned, I saw Leonard T. Zinn playing one at the '99 convention and was quite impressed with both player and guitar. A few months later when one appeared on ebay, I went for it. I think that very few people knew or even heard of the Canopus so there wasn't much competion. I've said several times before on several other threads that you have to pick and choose your battles on ebay. It has become increasingly difficult to do that at present though.
Posted: 24 Sep 2001 9:51 pm
by George Keoki Lake
You guys think those prices are high...My friend in NZ paid double due to their low rate of exchange. We in Canada have to pay through the nose as our dollar is worth only .64 to the US $$$$! (NZ is less than .50!!) That's the reason I mentioned CANOPUS is rather pricey.
And Jody...I'm having second thoughts about you playing with another guy's canopus! (ha!)
Posted: 24 Sep 2001 11:33 pm
by David Stehman
George
Are there Canagian makers of lap or
pedal steels.?
Dave Stehman
Posted: 25 Sep 2001 4:09 am
by HowardR
Joseph Yanuziello is a fine maker of acoustic and electric steels.
Linkon makes pedal steels and interestingly enough, they make a "lap pedal steel". It comes with 3 & 2, or 3 & 4 with two wrist levers and keyless. That's what it states on their website although there is no photo of that. I'd love to see that or hear from anyone that has, or has played one.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by HowardR on 25 September 2001 at 05:10 AM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 25 Sep 2001 8:33 am
by Jody Carver
Can anyone post an e mail address for me to contact "Canopus"?? appreciate it if you would. Thanks.....
Posted: 25 Sep 2001 9:06 am
by HowardR
Wow, Jody, you really, have a "yen" for this steel. I think that you better have many yen for a triple neck.
I don't see an email address on their website but there is a phone & fax number. You may be better off sending a fax;
011 - 81 - 3 - 3465 - 0589 fax
011 - 81 - 3 - 3465 - 0872 tel