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Sam Minnitti

 

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Post  Posted 9 Sep 2002 4:07 am    
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I am considering using a tube pre-amp, such as the Tone Works, Blue Tube II along with my Nashville 400.

I was wondering if anyone uses this setup and if so, how do you connect the pre-amp to the Nashville? Do you use the instrument jack on the front of the Nashville, or do you go into the back of the Nashville in the Power Amp IN? What's the difference?

Also, can you still use the volume pedal patch with an external pre-amp? How about effects, mainly delay and reverb? I would assume they go between the pre-amp and the Nashville?

Thanks for straitening me out.



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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 9 Sep 2002 5:50 am    
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I can't answer all your questions but for sure you wouldn't use the instrument jack on the front of the 400 when coming from a pre amp. The signal would be way too hot. You should use the pre-amp jack in the back of the 400. I use a Blue Tube II and really like it. I haven't looked in the back of mine lately but I think is has ins and out for effects.
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LARRY COLE

 

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LANCASTER, OHIO, USA
Post  Posted 9 Sep 2002 2:25 pm    
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Use the power amp in on the Nashville. This will disable the pre amp, the effects loop and everything on the front of the amp including the reverb. The line level signal between the pre amp and power amp will be to hot for the volume pedal. It is designed for insturment level and anything hotter will shorten the life of the pot.

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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 9 Sep 2002 6:30 pm    
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Buy a Mossvalve amp and chuck the 400. The Blue Tube is a GREAT preamp and I would still be using one if I was going rack. You can get a Mossvalve used for about $200.00. Extremely clean power.
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Mike Brown

 

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Meridian, Mississippi USA
Post  Posted 10 Sep 2002 6:31 am    
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Sam,
The pre eq insert point for your volume pedal on the front panel of the Nashville 400 will not function if you connect the output of your ToneWorks preamp to the POWER AMP IN jack on the '400'. By connecting to the POWER AMP IN jack, all frontpanel functions on the '400' are bypassed.

By connecting the ToneWorks preamp to the instrument inputs on the frontpanel of the 400, the noise level would most likely increase since two preamp would be active with this configuration.

I would guess that your TubeWorks preamp would have an effects loop? If not, the only other method of patching in effects would be in line between the TubeWorks preamp out and
the power amp in on the Nashville 400.

If you have further questions, please contact me toll free at 1-877-732-8391 and I will be glad to assist you.

Mike Brown
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Sam Minnitti

 

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New Rochelle, NY
Post  Posted 10 Sep 2002 6:24 pm    
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Thanks everyone.

Mike,

I guess the configuration would be something like this..

Guitar to volume pedal IN

Volume pedal OUT to IN on the Blue Tube pre-amp

OUT on the pre-amp to the power amp IN on the back of the Nashville.

Then run my reverb and delay units in the Blue Tube’s effects loop, which it does have.

Thanks for giving this the once over, it’s appreciated as always.


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John Russell

 

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Austin, Texas
Post  Posted 11 Sep 2002 5:34 pm    
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On the advice of a very competent sound tech here, I run my FX straight off the volume pedal, then to my Real Tube II (a very similar pre-amp), then to the power amp. Only exception, my ART digital reverb is run between the pre- and power amps. Tone is superb and the noise is low. He suggested to run the power amp wide open to keep the gain low on the pre-amp. Works for me, but if you have a pretty hot power amp, you may want to set it around half so the pre-amp drives the tubes a little more.
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Sam Minnitti

 

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New Rochelle, NY
Post  Posted 13 Sep 2002 8:36 am    
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Kevin

Re: MosValve amp, does the 962 or 1160 models have what it takes, or would you recommend the 1500?

Thanks




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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 13 Sep 2002 11:27 am    
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Sam:
I use the 962 together with the Blue Tube II and it has plenty of punch. I've never turned it up more than half way.
If you need more punch that the 962 has, chances are, they'd run you through the board anyway. Get a Peavey EDI direct box and connect it between your amp and speakers.
Erv
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Sam Minnitti

 

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New Rochelle, NY
Post  Posted 13 Sep 2002 6:00 pm    
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Hi Erv,

I just got my Blue Tube II today and love it! It’s adding the warmth I have been looking for.

Thanks for telling me about the Peavey EDI box, I was unaware of such a device that goes between the amp and speaker. Even though I do not have this setup right now, and am running the Blue Tube into the back of the Nashville 400, I will certainly keep this in mind if I move to an external amp/speaker rig. I have always avoided going direct because of tone issues when doing that, but this device sounds like an excellent solution.

FYI, I’m looking for the increasingly hard to find ToneWorks reverb unit..if you have any leads let me know.

Thanks


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Kevin Hatton

 

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Post  Posted 13 Sep 2002 8:03 pm    
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Sam, as Erv said, the 962 is just fine and thats what I used when I had a Blue-Tube. The power consistencey out of a Mossvalve amp is WAY noticeable. I didn't know what clean sound was until I got one. A rack with, Mossvalve amp, Blue Tube, and Profex or similar unit is a deluxe rig. Add a JBL bottom and you'll make heads turn. Its only because I play a Webb that I don't use one.
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Sam Minnitti

 

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New Rochelle, NY
Post  Posted 14 Sep 2002 9:08 am    
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Thanks Kevin



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