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Jack Francis

 

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Queen Creek, Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 14 Feb 2006 6:50 pm    
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This oughta get things hoppin' around here!

Willie's new song just, "CAME OUT" so to speak...

Country music outlaw Willie Nelson sang "Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys" and "My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys" more than 25 years ago. He released a very different sort of cowboy anthem this Valentine's Day.

"Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly (Fond of Each Other)" may be the first gay cowboy song by a major recording artist. But it was written long before this year's Oscar-nominated "Brokeback Mountain" made gay cowboys a hot topic.

Available exclusively through iTunes, the song features choppy Tex-Mex style guitar runs and Nelson's deadpan delivery of lines like, "What did you think all them saddles and boots was about?" and "Inside every cowboy there's a lady who'd love to slip out."

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Charles Davidson

 

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Phenix City Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 14 Feb 2006 7:26 pm    
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Have to pass on this one.
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Henry Nagle

 

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Santa Rosa, California
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2006 7:29 pm    
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Willie has never been the sort to censor himself, has he? Haven't heard the song yet so I can't comment. I wasn't to crazy about his "reggae" album, but I've got to respect a guy who's willing to try new things. Especially someone with so many great songs under his belt.
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Duane Reese

 

Post  Posted 15 Feb 2006 8:59 pm    
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This could just be another one of Willie's gag/novelty songs (I HOPE that's all) There's some new things you should never try.

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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2006 11:45 pm    
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I don't think it's a gag. I think Willie is trying to say that gays are people too, and should have the same rights as straight people.

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Jim Phelps

 

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Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 12:17 am    
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I wonder if Willie is trying to say what Mike P suggests, or if he just thought that with the release and popularity of Breakback Mountain, it was the right time to release the song, for commercial success as well as any other possible reasons.

I searched Google on the song title and found the lyrics and even an mp3 by someone, not Willie. The lyrics are witty and pretty clever, if you don't mind the premise.

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Joey Ace


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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 4:37 am    
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Willie has always been unafaid to speak his mind. I respect that. I don't believe it was an attempt to cash in on the current movie, at least I hope not.

It's not unheard of for an artist to record an older unkown song, and it seems like it was written for current events.

"Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town" is widely believed to be about a Vietnam Vet, since it was a hit in that time period, and referenced "that crazy Asian war". It was actually about Korea, and written more than ten years earlier.

Still, I always wondered about the cowboy to whom Natives Americans gave the name "Dances With Men".
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Keith Cordell


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San Diego
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 4:50 am    
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Willie stated in an interview that he wrote the song many years ago after a member of his tour crew came out to him. He never released it but recently decided to rerecord it and put it out.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 6:40 am    
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It may not be a gag, but it seems to be a parody of his own previous tune.
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Tommy R. Butler


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Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 6:57 am    
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Tell ya what this will be the most debated, most award winning song of the year. Everyone, everywhere is talking, opinionating & reviewing this song, from the lil joe nobody message boards to every coffee shop in LA.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 7:21 am    
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I sure hope ol' Willy isn't wearing lace on his Fruit of the Looms!

To bad ol' Waylan isn't there to slap him around.
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John Macy

 

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Rockport TX/Denver CO
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 7:44 am    
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"The song, which debuted Tuesday on Howard Stern's satellite radio show, was written by Texas-born singer-songwriter Ned Sublette in 1981. Sublette said he wrote it during the "Urban Cowboy" craze and always imagined Nelson singing it.

Someone passed a copy of the song to Nelson back in the late 1980s and, according to Nelson's record label, Lost Highway, he recorded it last year at his Pedernales studio in Texas"
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Brett Anderson

 

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Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 9:07 am    
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Relax homophobes. Let's try to remember what a great sense of humor Willie has. If you are unaware of his sense of humor pick up one of his books and read it. And what a great idea to do a song like this with the popularity of the movie that's out right now. Good for you Willie, I hope you sell a few million records. I recommend his tribute to Lefty Frizzell. "To Lefty From Willie". His voice sounds incredible and he doesn't break time at all.
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David Mason


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Cambridge, MD, USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 10:03 am    
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The song is clearly designed to be listened to while you're driving around in your BioWillie diesel-fueled truck hanging upside down in your Gravity Boots. Look, if you'd been smoking boo for over half a century you'd be whacked too - give the man a break.
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Ron Page

 

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Penn Yan, NY USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 10:03 am    
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Never cared much for Willie's music once he left the ET show. About 1 in 10 of his songs holds my attention. Maybe this will be the 1, but it'll have to make it to Hank's Place on XM before I'll know.



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Richard Sevigny


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Salmon Arm, BC, Canada
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 10:11 am    
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It just goes to show that Willie is as witty as ever and doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks...

I just feel sorry for the cowboys who don't have a sense of humour
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Bobby Lee


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Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 10:47 am    
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It was actually featured on CBS Evening News last night. I think Willie still knows how to drum up some publicity now and then.

The premise is no surprise to anyone who's ever played country music in a gay bar. The phrase "all hat - no cattle" comes to mind.
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Gene Jones

 

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Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 11:00 am    
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P Gleespen


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Toledo, OH USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 12:40 pm    
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So, you mean all guys dressed up as cowboys AREN'T gay?
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Richard Sevigny


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Salmon Arm, BC, Canada
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 12:58 pm    
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...not to be confused with the Village People
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Jim Phelps

 

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Mexico City, Mexico
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 2:19 pm    
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Relax homophobes


Not funny, Brett! I don't believe talking about this song is grounds for being called a homophobe. Anyone can see that it is an unusual song for the mainstream, and talking about it is NOT being a homophobe.

I don't see anything here that constitutes calling anyone a homophobe, even considering a couple light jokes.

I am not gay but neither am I a homophobe and I DO resent being labelled in any way, ESPECIALLY one that does not apply.

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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 2:53 pm    
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Homosexuals already have all the rights that the Constitution of the US gives to every citizen.

What they are asking for are NOT rights. They are wanting laws to legitimize their lifestyle. The morale and social foundations of our country did not support this lifestyle. In order for this to occur, you have to tear down quite a bit of our social foundation. That is the issue here with so called "gay rights".

I cannot recall the last time a homosexual was not allowed to vote or excercise free speech or bear arms or was denied due process or anything like that.

There are/were plenty of laws about the acts they engage in and the subsequent restrictions placed on them as a result of their behaviour.

I have not heard the Willie song, but I say that in conjuction with the release of the movie and the airplay it will receive that this is a wise business move on his part.
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Henry Nagle

 

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Santa Rosa, California
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 3:42 pm    
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So marriage is a priveledge? Not a right?
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 4:34 pm    
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Marriage is not a constitutional right.

All the gay marriage stuff is trying to be legislated under the right to privacy NOT the right to marriage.

The word "Marriage" does not appear in the Constitution or Bill of Rights. It is controlled by the states and legislated thereof. That is why you see some states passing gay marriage laws and some restricting it.

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Brett Anderson

 

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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2006 5:54 pm    
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Easy Jim, Not labeling anybody in particular. But I'm reminded of the outpouring of anti-gay sentiment I read on this forum on a post someone started to congratulate Boo Bernstein on a great job on the movie soundtrack and being recognized by Oscar. There's no doubt at all some of those posts were made by homophobes. They are everywhere, so are gays. It's a big world. I'm not gay either but as I reflect on my current list of trials and tribulations, I find other people's life choices and preferences way down on the bottom of the list of things I care about. I'd say different strokes for different folks but someone might take that literally. Go Willie! (can I say that?)
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