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Topic: Wanted: 3 Minor Example |
Joey Ace
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 5:24 pm |
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What's a popular song that uses the three minor chord?
I can think of many examples of the 2m, most notably the 1645 progression.
I'd like some similar example using 3m.
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 5:31 pm
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Lay Lady Lay comes to mind.
-----also, the second line in Someday Soon.[This message was edited by Jon Light on 15 February 2006 at 05:33 PM.] |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 5:31 pm
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Offhand, "Lookin' for love" (the 3m chord is the 2nd chord in the chorus) and "Abraham Martin and John" where it is the 2nd chord in the verse.
Also the last line of of "Crazy"
"I'm crazy for trying and crazy for.... |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 5:32 pm
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Easy Like Sunday Morning uses a iii.
(I)Ab-(iii)Cm7-(ii)Bbm7-(V)Eb7 |
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Tommy R. Butler
From:
Nashville, Tennessee
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 7:28 pm
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| Tracy Byrd Get Me Over Mountains.2m 3m 4 5 End of course I believe. |
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Steve Hinson
From:
Hendersonville Tn USA
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 9:08 pm
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Having just finished another run of "Always Patsy Cline", I'm still hearing "Leaving on your Mind" echoing in my head.
That's another one where the chorus runs 4-3m-2m...
A whole lot of country/pop tunes use that cadence as a walk going in either direction.
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 9:40 pm
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"The Weight" by the Band - 1, 3m, 4, 1. The bridge in "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" by the Beatles - 1, 3m, 6m, 3m, 2m, 2m, 5.
IIIm is used a lot in jazz and older popular music as a passing chord - going up and down the diatonic harmonized scale - Imaj7, IIm7, IIIm7, IVmaj7, V7. IIIm changes are in a lot of standards - e.g., "Stardust" by Hoagy Carmichael, "Unchained Melody", "Somewhere Over the Rainbow", and so on. Relative to the I, the IIIm7 is 3, 5, 7, 9, and so the IIIm triad is a nice substitute for Imaj7 and vice versa. Perhaps that explains why 1, 3m changes don't occur as often as 1, 2m changes do - it's a fairly subtle change. |
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Stephan Miller
From:
Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 10:14 pm
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| "Wild Horses". |
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 10:33 pm
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| "Here, There, and Everywhere" - I, IIm, IIIm, IV, etc. |
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Michael Holland
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2006 11:11 pm
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| America's 'Sister Golden Hair'. The signature lick (two-three-five-seven) is over a 3m chord. [This message was edited by Michael Holland on 15 February 2006 at 11:26 PM.] |
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Dave Boothroyd
From:
Staffordshire Moorlands
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 12:28 am
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I don't know who did the Country version of the Fleetwoods' "Mister Blue", but the chords for the first line go:-
C, Em (Do Wah Do Wah Do)Am
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Cheers!
Dave
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 3:13 am
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George Hamilton IV's "In the Early Morning Rain" has a 3 minor. The chord structure is 1 3m 5, 1 2m 5, 1 2m 5, 1 3m 5, 1 It took some concentration to learn that one when I worked with him last year.
I have an intro tabbed and an MP3 of the intro on "Almost There" my web site of a Jimmy Peppers song I did. The intro is 1 3m 4 5 1. http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jstoner1/intros.htm |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 5:04 am
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| "Crazy Love" by Van Morrison. |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 5:07 am
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"Day In The Life"............
(G) I read the (Bm) news today, oh (Em) boy.......
(G) "Smoky Mountain Rain" keeps on (Bm) falling.......
[This message was edited by Chris LeDrew on 16 February 2006 at 05:11 AM.] |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 6:04 am
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MTB..Heard it in a Love Song.
Verse. 1 3m 4 1.
Tammy....verse 1 3m 4 1.
All These Things...second half of verse. "sound of your voice" 3m.
Skeeter Davis End of the World. Verse: 1 5 6m 3m. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 9:03 am
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Joey,
When I'm on the bandstand bowling for notes and I hear the root drop a half step and it doesn't sound like a leading tone I guess 3m. I hear a 3m in pop tunes like a half way there dom 5 chord. Often I'll play a major 5 chord instead of the 3m just so everybody isn't marching around in unison.
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John Macy
From:
Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 9:05 am
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"When I'm on the bandstand bowling for notes"
Nice one Bob, I'll be using that one  ... |
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John McGann
From:
Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 9:20 am
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Beatles If I Fell D Em F#m ("give my heart...")
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Info for musicians, transcribers, technique tips and fun stuff. Joaquin Murphey transcription book, Rhythm Tuneup DVD and more...
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 9:53 am
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| "Stormy Monday": I7-IIm7-IIIm7-bIIIm7-IIm7 |
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Ron Page
From:
Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 9:57 am
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I haven't touched my steel in about a year, but I seem to recall an early album cut by Diamond Rio with a song called "(Til One of Us is Gone) Out of My Mind". Now that I've gotten this far I can't swear that it's a 3m, but perhaps a 3maj.
(Bob's chord substitution makes me think the chord I'm hearing in that tune is the major, because I don't think a 5 would work there.)
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 10:31 am
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Thank you all for the many great replies.
You've help me a lot.
My question of hearing a 3 minor is a result of listening to JayDee Maness's second instructional DVD. At one part in it, Jim P. is asking him to show how he charts a song in a studio situation. Jim plays the demo and JayDee writes the chart.
I thought that I have the skills to do the same, but I didn't identify the 3 minor that was quite promenent in the song.
That's why I want to concentrate on this weak spot in my ear training. Your above examples are just what I needed.
Bob H's comment "I hear a 3m in pop tunes like a half way there dom 5 chord" is also an eye-opener (ear-opener?) for me.
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 10:40 am
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| A lot of times it sounds like Imaj7. |
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 10:56 am
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You are so right b0b.
The IIIm has the exact notes as the I Maj7, with the exception of the root (tonic) note, which is missing.
This brings to mind the interesting fact that the Bass Player can change your chord by playing the wrong note.[This message was edited by Joey Ace on 16 February 2006 at 11:18 AM.] |
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Stephan Miller
From:
Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2006 12:05 pm
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The 5 chord I would use as a sub would be the V6.
Jack S.-- Good example, but I hope GH4 isn't claiming to have written Gordon Lightfoot's "Early Morning Rain"... |
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