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BJ Bailey
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Jackson Ms,Hinds
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Posted 21 Jun 2001 10:44 am |
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On the Gram Parson album Greive'us Angel's ,there is a song he sing's,((( THAT'LL BE CASH ON THE BARRLEHEAD SON)))).
When the steelguitar takes a ride, Gram call's out the steel man's name.It sound's like he's saying Gene????? somebody, to me.Dose anyone know who the steel player that Gram is refering to???
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BJ Bailey
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Bob Knight
From:
Bowling Green KY
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Posted 21 Jun 2001 11:12 am
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BJ,
Here are the album credits on "Grievous Angel"
Emmylou Harris - Vocals
Gram Parsons - Guitar (Acoustic), Guitar, Vocals, Producer
Linda Ronstadt - Vocals, Vocals (bckgr)
James Burton - Guitar, Guitar (Electric)
Rik Grech - Bass
Byron Berline - Fiddle, Mandolin, Violin
Glen D. Hardin - Piano, Keyboards, Piano (Electric)
Hugh Davies - Engineer
Emory Gordy - Bass
Bernie Leadon - Guitar, Guitar (Electric), Guitar (Rhythm), Vocals
Herb Pedersen - Dobro, Guitar, Guitar (Rhythm)
Al Perkins - Guitar (Steel)
Norman D. Smart - Drums
Stephen Snyder - Vocals (bckgr), Vibraphone
Ron Tutt - Drums
[This message was edited by Bob Knight on 21 June 2001 at 12:13 PM.] |
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 22 Jun 2001 7:29 am
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Al Perkins and James Burton do a lot of twin licks on that album, it's a great set.
The bulk of the album was recorded with Emmylou Harris, James Burton, Rik Grech,
Byron Berline, Glen D. Hardin, Hugh Davies,
Emory Gordy, Al Perkins and Ronnie Tutt.
While the others were mainly brought in for one track here and there.
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Mark Ardito
From:
Chicago, IL, USA
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Posted 24 Jun 2001 7:29 am
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I believe that on the song "Barrlehead Son" that was recorded live and so was Hickory Wind. If that was recorded live it was most likely James Burton on guitar and Neil Flanz on pedal steel. Man what a great line up! Neil is on the forum here, you may want to drop him a email and ask.
Mark
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BJ Bailey
From:
Jackson Ms,Hinds
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Posted 24 Jun 2001 11:15 am
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Thanks fellows.I beleive it might be Neal that Gram mention's in Cash on the barrelhead,and it was from a live performance.The music on this CD is awesome.Steel, fiddle,guitar
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BJ Bailey
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John Steele (deceased)
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 24 Jun 2001 11:44 am
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B.J., that portion of the album was actually recorded "live in the studio".
Somewhere, there is a reference to "Live from Northern Quebec" in the notes. This has prompted many fans to search in vain for more cuts from this performance.. there were none. There was no "Live from northern Quebec" show.
I understand that the audience noise on those cuts was actually recorded at a Merle Haggard concert (!)
Cash on the Barrelhead is an old Louvin Brothers tune.... another common thread, as Neil Flanz was the Louvin's steeler for a period.
I always thought he was saying "James" (Burton). I could be wrong.
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BJ Bailey
From:
Jackson Ms,Hinds
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Posted 24 Jun 2001 9:17 pm
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John I thought I had also read an article saying the audience was taped.Are you saying that the break was play by Jame Burton on guitar,I sure thought I heard Gram mention the one playing,and his hot Steelguitar .It's just the name I ca'nt seem to get.Take another liston for me 
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BJ Bailey
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John Steele (deceased)
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 25 Jun 2001 7:44 am
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B.J., I always thought that break was "twinned" - lead and pedal steel.
But, I'll pull it out and listen again, with pleasure.
-John |
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 25 Jun 2001 11:54 am
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Gram says something like"..and here`s James Burton on his hot ?????? guitar..".I couldn`t figure out the mystery word but I`m sure about the James Burton part.
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Olli Haavisto
Polar steeler
Finland
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 25 Jun 2001 7:10 pm
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It's not live, neither of the tracks are. Gram hadn't played an actual gig between 1970 (when he quit the FBBs) and the 1973 mini-tour with Neil Flanz.
It was totally a studio concoction.
I'd say that Gram is calling James, what exactly I don't know. As an added thought; Al Perkins did an interview and commented that he and Burton did a lot of twin work on that album. It might even be in the sleeve notes of the CD version of the two solo GP albums. |
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John Steele (deceased)
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 25 Jun 2001 7:33 pm
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Dat's what I keep tryina tell ya....
B.J., I listened again. I couldn't make it out until I played it backwards. He said "Here's James, 'cause we couldn't afford to get B.J. Bailey on his pedal steel guitar..."
-John
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Mark Tomeo
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Posted 26 Jun 2001 9:05 am
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As usual, Jason Odd has it exactly right; the crowd noises were dubbed in as a sort of backhanded tribute to the less than overwhelming popular success he was having at the time.
What Gram said was, "That's James Burton and his hot paisley guitar." |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 26 Jun 2001 11:37 am
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| I thought the crowd noises were done by Van Dyke Parks... |
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Larry R
From:
Navasota, Tx.
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Posted 26 Jun 2001 1:18 pm
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Let me show my ignorance. Is Gram Parsons still alive? |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 26 Jun 2001 4:54 pm
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| No. He died many years ago. "Grevious Angel" was his last album. |
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 27 Jun 2001 12:03 am
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"background blah-blah by Kim Fowley,Phil Kaufman,Ed Tickner,Jane & Joe Doe"
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Olli Haavisto
Polar steeler
Finland
[This message was edited by Olli Haavisto on 27 June 2001 at 01:05 AM.] |
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 27 Jun 2001 6:46 am
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"and his hot paisley guitar"
Mark, that's so cool. Now that song will be so different every time I hear it, thanks.
I think JB got his paisley Telecaster in 1969, they don't make them like that anymore..do they? |
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Geoff Brown
From:
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Posted 30 Jun 2001 8:43 pm
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Sorry, but I don't think Gram's saying "paisley" guitaron that song. It sounds more like "pickin",or "picklin" but it's neither of those. Since JB's paisley tele was pink, the word Gram uses sounds like it could be "pinkley"...which would be a cross between "pink" and "paisley". We can only guess as to Gram's state of mind during this session, and what may have entered his mind as he intro'd JB on this song.To me,the break is clearly a twin lead, with JB and AL Perkins.
JB aquired his paisley tele while playing Vegas with Elvis.He badly wanted to use it during those shows, but was afraid that Elvis wouldn't like it. He finally did strap it on one nite, and Elvis took a look at JB after a song...then at the guitar, but didn't really say much one way or the other about it.
As far as I know, you can still obtain one from the Fender Custom Shop. |
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Geoff Brown
From:
Nashvegas
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Posted 30 Jun 2001 10:33 pm
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| To follow up on those paisley guitars, I have seen them new in stores over the years, although not recently. Most likely they were produced as a stock item at some time, and perhaps they still are. Without checking, I'd be reasonably certain that one could be had from the Custom Shop(with or w/o JB's specs), if not ordered as a "production" instrument thru a dealer. |
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 1 Jul 2001 12:50 am
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Paisley and flower Teles were available in the Japanese (Fender) "collectibles" series at least a few years ago.
Olli[This message was edited by Olli Haavisto on 01 July 2001 at 11:13 AM.] |
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Neil Flanz
From:
Austin, Texas (deceased)
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Posted 1 Jul 2001 1:17 pm
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Hi Forumites,
Jason is right. The only true live Gram Parsons material besides a short home made video which was taped at Liberty Hall in Houston, was Gram Parsons & the Fallen Angels live '73 which we recorded live at WLIR, a now defunct F.M. radio station in Hempstead, Long Island N.Y. and featured EmmyLou Harris as Gram's female singing partner. She also sang "Good Ole Country Baptizing down by the Creek.I played pedal steel, Jock Bartley played lead, Kyle Tullis was on bass and N.D. Smart ll was on drums. We did a six week cross country tour and the album was recorded after our appearance at Max's Kansas City Club in Manhattan and before our last two dates at the Bijoux in Philadelphia and Oliver's in Brookline Mass.The c.d. is still available today and I have seen it advertised on Amazon. I believe that John Delgatto of Sierra records still carries it in his catalog. A new c.d.featuring myself and a new group called the Porch Pickers has just been released containing several of Gram's songs. Please check out my announcement in Events and Announcements or e-mail me at neilflanz@mindspring.com.Please also check out my webpages at http://www.ambrec.com/Homepages/neil/neil.htm |
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Ken Tinsman
From:
Buedingen/Wolf, Germany
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Posted 5 Jul 2001 1:24 am
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I've been trying to figure out what Gram says there for 25 years and the closest I could get was "James Burden and his hot pink Lincoln car" which makes no sense and I always figured it had to be something else. I'll vote for hot pink paisley guitar.
Thanks for the info, Neil! Gram didn't leave many songs, but the ones he did are great. I'll have to check out your CD. |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2001 8:13 am
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| Just listen to it, and it sounds like "James Burton and his hot pick lick guitar" to me. I can't get "paisley" out of that no how. I hear k's. |
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Mark Holland
From:
Tampa, Florida
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Posted 5 Jul 2001 8:54 am
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I heard this song "Cash on the Barrelhead" from the Grievous Angel album since it was released in 74. I have always heard Gram say
"James Burton and his hot pick lickin guitar".
And today it sounds the same to me as it did in 1974.
Gram is havin fun and it is NOT a live track from Northern Quebec. Phil Kaufman told me the story many years ago. They set up bottles and glasses in the studio just after Gram's death in 73 they tried to make the two songs sound like a live recording because at that time he had none. 10 years later "Live 73 GP and the Fallen Angels" was released. Iam proud to be the one who found the master tapes of that recording (thanks to Neil) in the late 70's for us all to enjoy today.
To be working with the great Neil Flanz today on "The Porch Pickers with Neil Flanz "Still Safe at Home" is an honor bestowed upon me.
Mark Holland
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Gene Jones
From:
Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 5 Jul 2001 11:11 am
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