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Topic: New Conceptual Approach |
erik
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Posted 9 Sep 2000 8:11 pm |
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I know how everyone likes to read about my ideas with steel and/or music (facetious maximus  ).
I would like it if an artist would release a CD with say 5 songs. Those five songs would be recorded in two sets - 1 in a modern fashion, the other in a more traditional fashion. Of course, no record label would do this, and the average consumer may feel they are being cheated. I however would love to have music packaged this way.
Another thing is i would like to have recordings available with the ability to mute parts. Somehow judiciously mix/master to a final 8 tracks where a listener can "fade" or mute seperate tracks to isolate the various instruments. It really helps you enjoy the music to a fuller extent. I have fun with my center channel canceler and balance knobs exposing subtle instrumentation that normally gets masked in the full mix. It's a shame people don't get to hear it.
OK, i may be strange but you'll never catch me in polyester dancing in front of a PA stack. (LOL) |
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2000 7:07 am
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Herby Wallace has some instructional tapes where you turn the "Balance" knob on your stereo all the way to the left for just the rhythm track, all the way to the right for for just the steel track, or straight up for a blend. I think DVD will make separating tracks a reality in the future if the artist will go for it. Some DVD movies are avaialble (I've heard) where you can see the finished product, or the "Blue Screen" version, or the "Directors Cut", ect. Something along those lines would be cool for music. "Hmmm, take 52 is my favorite I think." That sort of thing. I recently picked up a copy of The Byrds "Sweatheart of the Rodeo" and it had a few extra versions of songs from the original alblum on it that didn't make the original cut. You can hear Lloyd Green do a few different licks over the same song. Poco also has a double CD out that has a few extra studio takes on it that were previously unreleased. I agree it would be nice to be able to mute different instruments and I can definatly think of a few where I would mute the vocalist.  |
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erik
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Posted 10 Sep 2000 10:37 am
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Pete,
This not entirely new. I remember reading about artists like Peter Gabriel, Prince, and maybe Bowie putting out interactive CD roms where you could change the music. This was about 5 years ago. It's an added value but certainly not worth the investment for a record company. Not when the average person would not care. But i do like hearing what one person is playing through a whole song. e.g; i tried my center canceller on different CDs and discovered some subtle guitar rhythms, and in one case heard some back-up steel that i didn't notice before.
You may have noticed in some 60s pop music when they were just getting the stereo thing down, that they would put a drum kit and bass on one channel and guitar and vocal on the other. Or even all music on one channel and vocal on the other. Ever hear some of the Four Season's recordings? |
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Lynn Kasdorf
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Waterford Virginia, USA
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Posted 11 Sep 2000 11:59 am
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Check out the Beatles' "Rubber Soul". You can totally suppress vocals with the balance knob.
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"You call that thing a guitar?" |
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Jude James Shiels
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near Dublin, Ireland
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Posted 13 Sep 2000 1:39 am
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I'm not so sure about this. Seems to me it is the same as somebody drawing glasses and a moustache on the Mona Lisa. I suppose if somebody gets a buzz out of that kind of thing good for them. Even if this concept was introduced on a grander scale I don't think it would rise above the level of say a passing fad. It is interesting though.
These techniques have been used for educational purposes for years now. |
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Bill Crook
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Goodlettsville, TN , Spending my kid's inheritance
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Posted 13 Sep 2000 6:15 am
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I have several instructional tapes like that. It's great for practic !
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Alan Shank
From:
Woodland, CA, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2000 8:18 am
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Those five songs would be recorded in two sets - 1 in a modern
fashion, the other in a more traditional fashion.
You can sort of get this effect sometimes in different recordings of the same song. For example, listen to Janie Fricke's version of "She's Single Again," ("The Very Best of Janie") then listen to Reba's version from that "Have I Got a Deal for You" album I referred to in another thread. Janie's version is very "pop" and I believe made the charts. Reba's was an obscure cut on an obscure album, but is one of my favorite "new traditional" arrangements.
Cheers,
Alan Shank |
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