The Steel Guitar Forum

Well folks i have watched it for over an hour
and saw two steel guitars,heard one.Its a shame that this crap can be called country
music.I heard a lot of rock guitar and watched SB act like a ferry.Im going to bed
this makes me sick.Just my opinion.

Wayne Broyles

Once again, it is not country, just bad rock and roll.Can you believe Clint and Lisa winning over Vince and Patty. How about Alan and George not winning over Tim. I think I will go to bed also.

Missed it all-Watched the Hockey game-the right team won that!

John

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Ya'll didn't expect 2 real country artists to win a so called "country" award did you?

The local CBS station had a segment in their local news, after the awards show, about "country" artists being played on pop stations, etc. One thing that was brought out, one song writer was intervied and she stated her publishing company told her to write songs for teen age girls as they are the ones that buy most of the recordings.

No wonder we have all the rap and teeny bopper music being promoted as "country".

I wonder if Roy Acuff ever thought of having dancers do a routine behind the smokey mountain boys when they were playing the Wa-Bash Cannonball.
Give me a break.

When all you have is Black,Twain,and the rest what do you expect to get?Hank Williams or Kitty Wells.The show is a fine example of todays music but is it country rock or what?

Only caught a few minutes of it. Tim McGraw sang out of tune, and sounded like he was singing a little out of his range. Gotta be hard to perform to canned music. Martina looked great in leather pants (but that two-note harmaonica solo was a little, uh, tedious, brief as it was). And, who was it, Chesney? (I don't really know country music that well). He sang some song about a girl and his tractor. I think I heard steel guitar in the mix, I think I saw one on the stage, but no one was sitting behind it. Hmmm...

<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Chris Walke on 04 May 2000 at 05:54 AM.]</p></FONT>

When I first turned it on, Some girl in leather was singing off-key, "Single White Female" it was horrible. Then later I clicked back just in time to see Sawyer Brown. I about gagged on that one.

Finally the last time I checked in the were giving the Dixie Chicks an award for album of the year, (I think).

I've got a headache from sitting at my Emmons, playing every Ray Price song I know as loud as my wife will let me.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARG

randy

Me too John. I switched from the hockey game just in time to see Alan Jackson and George Strait come out on stage. I enjoyed "Murder on Music Row" saw Faith Hill win some Video award, and switched back to the Av's vs Red Wings. Av's won in overtime.

David Weaver

Well, I did notice a lot of steel playing in the segues to and from commercial breaks. I didn't hear much else or see much else as far as steel goes.

I agree that a lot of what goes onto those programs showcases music targeting teenage girls. They spend a lot on music. I think that's why Shania and the Chicks are so big in that venue.

One of these days you're going to hear someone attempt country wiht a hiphop beat. My, how things change.

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<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Bill Llewellyn on 04 May 2000 at 07:25 AM.]</p></FONT>

Dick Clark produced the show so what else could we expect.Anything he is involved in is going to be TRASH.

It's strange about the vocals. Quite
a few were <u>off key.</u> I've never heard
anything like that on a big awards show.
Did you notice that with all the top players
backing Dolly on that bluegrass tune that
none of them were really playing! All canned....amazing! And those dancers with
Wynonna....what the heck was that, some kinda
hip hop thing???

Well I only caught the first hour, but didn't it sound like most of the singers were out of tune and/or really nervous? Was that a result of singing over canned instruments or what? Even though it's mostly bad rock 'n' roll, these people can't be THAT flat all the time ---and what's with the nanny-goat vibrato? Nerves?

Curious in Los Angeles

Sorry guys I posted a thread on off topic about this thing they called country music awards. Guess I should have checked here first. Anyway My opinion is the same as most of what I'm reading here. JUNK, JUNK, AND MORE JUNK. T steel was good going to commercial break though.

Jeff

Well, I saw ONE bright spot on the "awards" show. IMHO the only decent sound after George and Allen was Asleep At The Wheel. Cindy Cashdollar was playing the devil out of her steel and the man or woman on the mixing board had her turned down so low you could barley hear her..

I MAY be a little bit prejudice tho seeing as how AATW is a Texas Band and they played Western Swing..Can't beat that

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Gee, aren't ya'll the same bunch of fellas that were defending Sha-Nay-Nay Twang from me in another post, last week. My, how wishy washy can we be!!!

As to singing out of pitch. It just confirms my notion that in the ear monitors are no count.

Will somebody please break into Dick Clarks house, and burn that portrait that he has stashed in the attic!!!!

Dick Clark strikes again!! The end is very near. Very near.

Gawd...was that bad or what...I don't understand how they could have been so lax in putting that show together. McGraw is way overated, most of the acts didn't even sound country let alone sound decent. What did you think of the gals towards the end, Parton, Judds, etc singing together. Sounded to me like everyone was trying to outsing each other. Pathetic....

Since it's not about steel guitar, I'm moving this to the Country Music area (which I may have to rename if things like this continue ).

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I saw bits and peices of the award show,so maybe it is not fair to be too opinionated by what I did see.
But I gotta tell you, it was very disturbing to listen to some of my favorite singers singing at times a quarter step out. I actually was embarrassed while watching.
It really made me wonder what they were hearing.
Certainly a really bad monitor mix can ruin your night, and maybe that was the main problem, beside the canned tracks. But it seems in our profession that the number of singers that really have the chops to give a great live performance are decreasing.
I work in a technical environment, and the first thing everyone asked this morning was did I see the show? Their first comments were of the out of tune vocals.
And I might add that only a few of them were country fans, so it really kinda made it worse.
I work with a vocalist who sings in tune and can belt it out for five sets and sings passionately because she loves it. It sure makes playing steel fun to play with a great singer.
Have audio programs like ProTools and the tuning of vocals made it too easy for vocalists that they maybe don't work as hard at their craft as they should? I sure hope not.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Eddie Stephens on 04 May 2000 at 04:09 PM.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Eddie Stephens on 04 May 2000 at 07:43 PM.]</p></FONT>

Hey guys,

I am not making any exscuses, but I know that all of our rehearsals for the show was very quick and you basically lived with what you got. They were more for pulling up a quick monitor mix, and getting camera angles. As far as the canned music part, you have no clue how difficult and time consuming it would be, not to mention the amounts of gear that would be needed, to have every act play live. It would be nearly impossible. I'll agree some guys who are normally great singers were a little off that night, and say what you will but it is sure easy to slam the performers when you are on the couch watching the action go down on your t.v.

Jeremy<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jeremy Moyers on 07 May 2000 at 10:07 PM.]</p></FONT>

"I think I saw one on the stage, but no one was sitting behind it. Hmmm... "

A Steel Guitar, or a Tractor?

"But it seems in our profession that the number of singers that really have the
chops to give a great live performance are decreasing".

Guys, I confess...the height of my professional music career was playing in a lot of bowling-alley bars, hillbilly wedding receptions/Pier-6 brawls, and playing acoustic guitar on soupy ballads
in weddings. (BLETCH! on the latter).

But... as a band, we would have (and did occaisionally) held some serious after-the-trainwreck soul-searching sessions, had we found ourselves unable to deliver in front of an audience, a few isolated "off-nights" considered.
Perhaps all the hype that's been propping up the facade is now crumbling under its own weight?

Also,...
I would love to see/hear Asleep at the Wheel perform live other than at a NAMM show!
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Rich Paton on 08 May 2000 at 01:24 AM.]</p></FONT>