GENUINE 1964 GIBSON SG & LEATHER CS

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 29 Oct 2006 8:40 pm

i have owned this nice 1964 Gibson SG for over twenty years and it has not been played much before nor since I have owned it.
I am open to offers from sincere financially capable interested parties.
Serial number 202025. Guitar comes with a Brown Leather case with the Red satin inner drape cover.
The case lid has the large Gibson USA Logo.
Email to request photos if interested and I'll send you thirteen views of front, back, sides, end, neck and front and rear head stock shots.
If this is not of interest to you I would sincerely appreciate your passing the word to any aquaintance that might be interested and /or an address of a serious collector I may not yet have.
Thanks for your time.

LB

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 30 Oct 2006 11:16 pm

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 1 Nov 2006 8:17 am

Is it a 64 or an 84? :- )

Thanks!

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 1 Nov 2006 9:19 am

Hello Tom,

It is a '64 NOT an '84. NO Made in USA stamp.

Though you did not ask, I'll send you 20 plus views.
Evidently you know you vintage instruments so you can see for yourself.
Thanks for looking.

LB

Loni Specter · Post by **Loni Specter** » 1 Nov 2006 5:42 pm

Pictures please.

Mike Thomas · Post by **Mike Thomas** » 1 Nov 2006 8:38 pm

I would like a picture as well.

Can you email est. price range?

Mike Thomas · Post by **Mike Thomas** » 2 Nov 2006 8:04 am

GAS has taken over. I've been watching/listening to alot of Derek Trucks so I need an SG right?

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 2 Nov 2006 8:49 am

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your inquiry.
I sent you the pics, perhaps you haven't seen them yet. I hope you received them. In case you haven't, the SG has the P-90 pick-ups.
Thanks.

LB

Mike Thomas · Post by **Mike Thomas** » 2 Nov 2006 10:56 am

Loren,

They may have been accidentally sent to the spam box.

Can you try again?

Mike

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 2 Nov 2006 11:25 am

Sure will send the pics again Mike.
I'll send them right out. You should have them in in a few minutes.
Thanks.

LB

Billy Courtman · Post by **Billy Courtman** » 3 Nov 2006 8:18 am

Hey Bud,i would love some pics.I had one of these when I was a kid.I'd love to revisit that...
Thanks

Jordan Shapiro · Post by **Jordan Shapiro** » 3 Nov 2006 8:34 am

Am I correct in assuming this is not an SG, but a les paul special?

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 3 Nov 2006 10:03 am

Hi Jordan,

The Gibson is an SG special not a Les Paul.
Sorry if that is what you are looking for.
Thanks.

LB

Loni Specter · Post by **Loni Specter** » 3 Nov 2006 10:06 am

Jordan,
It is an SG. (not Les Paul shaped)
There were no Les Pauls between 1962 and 1967

Bobby D. Reed · Post by **Bobby D. Reed** » 3 Nov 2006 4:33 pm

Loren;
My emails bounced back but I wanted to say I have some SD10's in near mint condition and would consider a trade of some kind. LDG, Emmons Legrande II, Carter 3&5.
Thanks....Bobby

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 3 Nov 2006 6:19 pm

Hi Bobby,

Thanks for your interest. I sent you an email of recognition and another with the pics of the SG.
Sorry to say, they both came back.
My email is lazyone2@pcpartner.net please email me with your email address and I'll re-send the 23 pics. They are not large files.
Thanks.

LB

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 3 Nov 2006 9:52 pm

One more time Bobby,

I tried to email you the pics again and it was rejected again.
I'm interested in seeing pics of the steels you mentioned. Please send them to the email address I gave in my last post with an email address I cxan reach you and I'll send you pics of the SG.
Let's try and make a deal.

LB

Chris Boyd · Post by **Chris Boyd** » 4 Nov 2006 5:09 am

I had a '64 SG Special for 25+ years...stupidly traded it in '97...BAD mistake...a GREAT guitar in every way...bought it used in '72 for 225.00!

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 4 Nov 2006 7:16 am

Hi Chris,

I know exactly what you mean. I did the same thing with one of the very first Gibson "J45 Southerner Jumbo models. I think I paid $179.00 for it in 1945 or 46. At that time that price was about six weeks take home pay. Traded it in on a black and white Supro elactric. Wish I still had that one too. The things we never knew!!!

LB

Bobby D. Reed · Post by **Bobby D. Reed** » 4 Nov 2006 7:33 am

Loren;
I sent a test email to see if it will get there. If not call 615 824 4187. ...Bobby

Jordan Shapiro · Post by **Jordan Shapiro** » 4 Nov 2006 11:26 am

Just for clarification, The les paul juniors and specials of that era were SG shaped, but they were "les paul juniors and specials" technically.
In the 50's until 60' when the body style was more Les Paul looking, the junior had one p-90 and the special had two, but they were both Les Pauls.
I believe that the same holds true for the 61 thru 69 or whenever gibson stopped making them. They were just shaped like SG's but were referred to as LP Junior or Special.
I think the SG special is a guitar with 2 humbucker pickups.
I am acually in the market for a mid to early 60's junior or special, although I wanted the Polaris White model.
What color is yours, and does it have the fatter profile neck?
If i am wrong about my les paul/SG rant, I didn't mean to stir anything up, I was just pretty sure the p90 equipped sg shaped guitars of this era were called les paul juniors and specials.
Are you at all interested in a refin 71' telecaster?
Jordan Shapiro

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 4 Nov 2006 11:48 am

Hi Jordan,

Sorry but I am really not interested in getting a Tele although, I played Fender Strats etc. for years and always liked the tone and feel of the Maple fretboard. I'm sure yours is a very nice instrument but I have a Tele, an Epiphone and an Aria six string that looks like a Les Paul standard. As to your question about the neck of the SG I'll send you the pics so you can see for yourself.
Thanks for the interest and your thoughts as to the guitar models.

LB

Bob Snelgrove · Post by **Bob Snelgrove** » 7 Nov 2006 8:50 pm

Ballpark value?

bob

Michael Hardee · Post by **Michael Hardee** » 7 Nov 2006 9:47 pm

MondoGuitars listed the 1964 SG Standard with P-90's as one of the top ten best vintage guitar buys under $10,000 in 2005. They quoted an average price of $7,000 to $9,000 in cherry finish, wide nut, excellent original condition.
They also noted that the Les Paul/SG guitars with PAF humbucking pickups that were only built from '60-'63 (the single cutaway Les Paul Standard was dropped in '60) are already selling for over $10,000.

No Les Pauls were made from '64 to '67, the familiar single cutaway Les Paul Standard was brought back in '68.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Michael Hardee on 07 November 2006 at 11:45 PM.]</p></FONT>

Loren Bayles · Post by **Loren Bayles** » 7 Nov 2006 10:36 pm

Hello Mike,

Thank you for the very informative post.
I think everyone that sees your reply will read with interest, as did I. I was not aware of those particular facts.
I was in error also I have learned, in my original post. I find my SG is a Special with the P90 p-ups and not a Standard.
From the many inquiries I have had there is definately a lot of interest in the vintage SGs. I may have to keep mine for a while as I have had no committment as to buying or trading for a steel.
Don't really want to list it on ebay but may have to do so.
Thanks for looking and for the good info.

LB