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Key of E - What is this chord spelling

Posted: 29 Apr 2006 9:18 am
by Sherman Willden
I was playing around and found this. I think it is part of the hymn *Because He Lives*.

BFG# to BFA to BFG#. This resolves nicely to the A chord.

Also what is BD#FG# to BD#FA. I assume I am still in the key of E.

Thank you;

Sherman

Posted: 29 Apr 2006 8:06 pm
by Dave Marshall
C#7 = C# F G# B
C#9 = C# D# F G# B
F7b5 = F A B D#
Fm7b5 = F G# B D#<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Dave Marshall on 29 April 2006 at 09:25 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 30 Apr 2006 7:27 am
by Bobby Lee
"BFG# to BFA to BFG#. This resolves nicely to the A chord."

Probably E7b9 and Bm7b5.

"Also what is BD#FG# to BD#FA. I assume I am still in the key of E."

I would guess that they're a VI chord, over the C# bass note. C#9 and C#9+5. Does it resolve to an F# chord?

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Posted: 30 Apr 2006 9:22 am
by Sherman Willden
Thank you Dave and b0b. I was trying to find major and minor seconds when I ran across this.

Does the following logic describe how you derived the b9? The flatted ninth of the E7b9 is because the minor second of E is the F note. Do you say 7b9 because 2+7=9? In other words F to E is a seventh?

Thank you;

Sherman

Posted: 30 Apr 2006 11:28 am
by Bobby Lee
An E9th chord is E G# B D F#. The D is the 7th tone and the F# is the 9th tone. It's not unusual to flat the ninth for a jazzier sound. E7b9 is E G# B D F.

E7b9 is very similar to a Bdim7 chord (B D F G#). The fact that you were resolving to an A chord led me to consider that E might be the real root of the chord. Often steel players mistake 7b9 chords for diminished chords because we don't think about the bass note very much.

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Posted: 1 May 2006 2:50 am
by Nic du Toit
Bobbe,
I was thinking along the same lines (Bass...), and then saw that you nailed it in your last post. Important to keep the root bass in mind.

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