help with quiet nights

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 19 Jun 2001 10:10 pm

Hey David; just click on the Help up there under "post new topic"& "post reply"> it will show you how to post a link and anything else you want to do here pal.
Otherwise> e-mail me> sshawaiian@aol.com anything you want and I'll do it for ya my friend.
Ricky

John Steele · Post by **John Steele** » 20 Jun 2001 1:26 pm

Hi david S10:
I assume you're talking about the Jobim tune, "Quiet nights of quiet stars" (alternately known as Corcovado) ?
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i just dont know how to translate all those complex chords to the neck yet
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That's something I think alot of people struggle with. Rather than someone going into their cave and emerging with a completed tab, how would you like to take this tune piece by piece, as a public group, and work through it ? Maybe we could all learn something in the process.
Just a thought. I think I have a chart somewhere for this, but perhaps you'd like to start by posting a link to the chart you are using, and we could take it from there.
Certainly willing to help if I can.
-John

Jeff Lampert · Post by **Jeff Lampert** » 20 Jun 2001 10:33 pm

Let's do it. Here's something I got off the net.

http://bossanovaguitar.com/antonio_carlos_jobim/chords_lyrics/corcovado.html

[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 21 June 2001 at 10:31 AM.]

Jeff Lampert · Post by **Jeff Lampert** » 21 Jun 2001 9:06 pm

There are two ways I can think of to approach this.
1. Locate chord positions.
2. Orchestrate the song with a melody line included with the chords.

The first is easier; the second allows you to go to the next step, which is to orchestrate lines to fit the song, and that is harder. For now, maybe we should do positions. I'll do the first few chords. I put three positions for each chord. Everyone should add more positions if they'd like. I took liberties with the C7/6 and made it a C13, which allows the 9th note. I also took liberties with the last C7/+5, and made a C9/+5, which also allows the 9th note. As a general ruld, IMO, you can arbitrarily include the 9th note in most any chord in a pop/jazz progressions (the basic C6 tuning is set up for this). Chords that require more than the basic 5 floors +1 knee lever are notated with an "X" next to the note. We welcome all changes, additions, and comments to any of this. We also welcome the thoughts and suggestions of any and all jazz aficionados. As John suggested, and I agree, this is an opportunity for all of us to learn from everyone else, and I certainly hope to learn a few new things here. So let's keep this one going. .. Jeff
<pre> Am7 Am6 G13-9

1_________________________________________________________________________________
2____5______12________________12_____________5_________11(6_______________________
3____5(7____12______9_________12______9______5R_X______11_______5L_____8L_________
4____5(7____12______9R_X______12______9______5(7_______11_______5______8L__X______
5____5______12______9_________12(5____9______5_________11(5_____5(5____8(5________
6____5______12______9(6_______12______9(6____5_________11(6_____5(6____8(6________
7___________12______9_________12______9_________________________5______8__________
8___________12________________12______9________________________________8__________
9_____________________________12(5_____________________________________8(5________
10________________________________________________________________________________</pre>

<pre> Gm7 C7/6 (C13) C7/+5 (C9/+5)

1_____________________________________7________________________________10_________
2____3______10______________________________4(6___________________________________
3____3(7____10______7_________10L_____7_____4__________13L______7R_X___10_________
4____3(7____10______7R_X______10______7_____4L_X_______13_______7______10R_X______
5____3______10______7_________10(5____7_____4(5________13_______7______10(5_______
6____3______10______7(6_______10______7(6___4(6________13(6_____7(6____10_________
7___________10______7_________10______7_____4__________________________10_________
8___________10________________10______7___________________________________________
9_____________________________10(5________________________________________________
10________________________________________________________________________________</pre>[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 21 June 2001 at 10:30 PM.]

Jeff Lampert · Post by **Jeff Lampert** » 24 Jun 2001 6:59 am

HelllOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Anyone home?

John Steele · Post by **John Steele** » 24 Jun 2001 7:50 pm

Just in the door, Jeff

large weekend.

Cool chords... as usual!

So, now that Jeff has provided us with a chart of possiblities, I'll give the first phrases a whirl.
The melody starts with a series of E to D notes, on an A-6 chord. E is the fifth of A-, so we need an A-6 chord, with the fifth on top.... preferably with the option of hitting a D note comfortably afterward..
Two easy possiblities, depending on which octave you'd care to be in: (I'm going to slightly modify one of Jeff's chords to make it A-6) (also, because it seems nobody uses their 8th pedal for much other than #9 chords... kind of a shame)
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A-6
1--------------- ------------
2--------------- ------------
3--------------- --5L-----5L-
4--5(7--5---5(7) ------5-----
5--5--------5---etc, --5------5--
6---------------or ------5-----
7--5(8------5(8- --5(8----(8-
8--------------- ------5-----
9--------------- ------------
10-------------- ------------

You can also use 4 note voicings.
Or, up an octave: (you can strum this voicing, or pick it,
either leaving one note out, or using 3 fingerpicks... whatever your fancy)
A-6
1------12------12-
2--12-----12------
3--12-----12------
4--12-----12------
5--12(5---12(5----
6-----------------
7-----------------
8-----------------
9-----------------
10----------------
So, that gets you through the first two bars.
Next, we need a G13b9 with the 13th (e) on top.
hmm... again, two of several possiblities,
in different octaves.
1------------- -------11(8------11(8-
2------------- --11(6------11(6------
3--5L-----5L-- --11--------11(6------
4--5---5------etc., --11--------11-------etc
5--5(5----5(5-or --11(5------11(5-------
6--5(6----5(6- ----------------------
7------------- -----------------------
8------------- -----------------------
9------------- -----------------------
10-5(5*------- -----------------------
</pre>
*optional root

Ok, that's a start... we'll see how that much goes..
-John

[This message was edited by John Steele on 24 June 2001 at 09:01 PM.]