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Any B6th universal players out there? I'm interested in seeing ideas from other B6th players using the two extra strings (F# and G#) that are available with this tuning.
Here are a couple of ways I've used them; these examples require the whole tone lower on the second string to C#, on the lever that lowers the E's a half tone.

The 1st and 2nd licks are in C:

C lick #1 wav file

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2 _____________________________________________6_______________________6________________
3 _____9___8__________________________________________7____6____________________________
4 ________________8(6)_--8_________________________________________6____________________
5 __________________________8_____8____7_--6____________________________________________
6 _____________________________8________________________________________________________
7 ______________________________________________________________________________________
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C lick #2 wav file


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1 _____________8________________________________6_______________________________________
2 ___________________________________________6__________________________________________
3 __8_--9___8___________________________________________________________________________
4 ________________8(6)_--8______________________________________________________________
5 __________________________8_____8___7_--6________6_--5________________________________
6 _____________________________8__________________________6_____________________________
7 ___________________________________________________________6_--6(5)__________6(5)_--6_
8 ____________________________________________________________________6_____6___________
9 _______________________________________________________________________6______________
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This next lick could maybe be used as an ending in G; the lever that lowers the E's is not engaged at first, then stays in for the remainder of the phrase.

G lick wav file

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1 ____8_________________________________________________________________________________
2 ___________________________8______8_____8_____________________________________________
3 _8____________________________________________________________________________________
4 ______8(no lever)_--8(E)_____________8______________________________________7(6)______
5 ______________________________8_____________8_--7________________________7________8___
6 ___________________________________________________7__________________7___________8___
7 __(--------quick------)_______________________________7(5)_______7(5)_____________8___
8 ____________________________________________________________7(6)__________________8___
9 ______________________________________________________________________________________
10______________________________________________________________________________________
11______________________________________________________________________________________
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The last one is an Em sounding phrase:

Em lick wav file

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2 _______________11____10__________________10_______________8___________________________
3 ___10____11___________________________________________________________________________
4 _________________________________10(6)________________________8(6)___8___7____________
5 _______________________________________________10___________________________7___8_____
6 ___________________________________________________________________________________8__
7 ______________________________________________________________________________________
8 ______________________________________________________________________________________
9 ______________________________________________________________________________________
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<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Mike Selecky on 11 March 2001 at 02:57 PM.]</p></FONT>

Hi Mike...I read your post twice to try and get a handle on it? I play a U-12, but have 3 extra strings on the bottom... G# E B
Everything that's available for a D-10 is available on a U-12 as far as basic pedal set-up. Beyond that will be preference of added knees and floors. I have found a few U-12 chord liks using the 9th string B to D knee that isn't available on D-10. I also have the G# to F# on the 6th and 10th. Makes for some nice low harmony on 3 note grabs.
Dennis

Dennis,

What I meant was, compared to a standard C6th
10 string tuning, the universal setup has the open F# and G# on the top of the tuning, extending the scale positions. There have been a lot of discussions about D10 vs. U12 lately in other threads, don't really want to get into that here, since each viewpoint has some validity, just wanted to see how other universal players use this extended tuning.

OK....now I'm tuned in! Don't know if I can add much to the thread on the high end. the U-12 is like having a C6th with a G on top followed by a D and an A. I have my 2nd string tuned to an open C#...like a D on C6th. Compared to C6th from the top......G D A E C A G E C A F C (Eb lever engaged).
Dennis<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Dennis Detweiler on 13 March 2001 at 06:13 PM.]</p></FONT>

Hi Guys,
On my S12U I've changed my first 3 strings to D#, G#, F#. When I'm locked into B6th it becomes C#, G#, F# Eb, B, ect...
I had to re-learn a few E9th grips and licks on the top 3 strings, but having those top strings in this order really made the B6th tuning fall into place (for me).
Basically all the licks/grips/pockets you already know how to play on strings 6-9 are now in the same position, just an octave higher.
In the E9th mode, all the E9th licks/grips/pockets you already know how to play on strings 6-10 are also in the same place, just an octave higher.
-pete

Hey Pete - I'll bet that really messes up anybody who sits in on one of your gigs