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Help!! Need chords for...

Posted: 6 Sep 2000 3:18 pm
by Richard Sinkler
B Bowman Hop
Hold It

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Carter D10 8p/10k
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Posted: 7 Sep 2000 4:09 pm
by Richard Sinkler
Bump.

Someone must know the chords. Both songs have sections where the chords "walk down". Those are the ones I need

Thanks

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Richard Sinkler BS, www.sinkler.com


Posted: 8 Sep 2000 5:18 pm
by John Steele
Richard,
I don't have a recording of "Hold It", but I've heard guys play it a time or two. I always thought it was just a blues progression. Most of the I chords are 7#9 chords, and most of the IV chords are 13th chords. (most likely using the boo-wah pedal)
I believe it's a II-V blues rather than a V-IV, but I could be mistaken.
-John

Posted: 9 Sep 2000 10:39 am
by Larry Henson
Julian Tharpe showed me how to play Hold It several years ago.
In order to not miss naming the chords I can tell you the strings, frets and pedals used.
Key of C, C6 Tuning:
After the lead in on the bass strings:
1. Third fret, boo-wah pedal down--strings
3 & 5 while raking the 9 & 8 with your
thumb.
2. Next chord (F?) same fret and strings but
release the boo-wah and press the pedal
that lowers the 5th string and raises
9 & 10.
3. Back to #1 above----the walk down is:
strings 3,5,8 & 9, boo-wah down--third
fret to open stings to 5th fret to 4th
fret and then back to the 3rd fret.
Hope this helps as I really don't know the
exact chord made by the boo-wah pedal--I've
heard it called every thing from a flatted
something to a suspended something or other.
Anyway one simple progression that will work
for the bass player is a simple C to A to D to G and back to C progression.
Larry<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Larry Henson on 09 September 2000 at 11:43 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 9 Sep 2000 3:20 pm
by Richard Sinkler
Thanks guys. I know how to play the song (Hold It) but was unsure of the chords in the "walkdown" part of the song. I suspected it was 1-6-2-5 but wasn't sure. I will play around with differents forms of these chords.

I'm trying to use Band-In-A-Box to make rhythm tracks of these songs and wanted to be sure of the right chord structure.

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Richard Sinkler BS, www.sinkler.com


Posted: 11 Sep 2000 12:33 pm
by John Steele
The C chord (I) is C7#9.
The F chord (IV) is F 13.
When you're at the 5th fret, it's D7#9 (II)
and at the 4th fret, it's G 13.

It is just a 11-V blues. If you take away the extensions (#9, etc) the chords are the same as a hundred other tunes. (Such as the "Billies Bounce" that was recently requested on here).
I've been pointing out the relationship between the two chords (7#9 and 13th)on here for at least a year. Everyone thinks I'm nuts. Image Hold It is a great example.
-John <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by John Steele on 11 September 2000 at 03:01 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 11 Sep 2000 5:24 pm
by Richard Sinkler
Well John, I don't think you're nuts. Thanks for the info. I thought it was a 2-5 thing but the alterations of te chords just threw me for a loop on this one.

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Posted: 11 Sep 2000 10:55 pm
by Ernie Renn
Buddy was tinkering without an amp in his booth at the convention a few years ago and he played the following after the boowah to A7#9. It gives you a common tone in there.
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1------------------------------------------
2------------------------------------------
3----------------------4(f-4(f-4(f------3--
4-----5(i-5(i-5(i--------------------------
5-----5---5---5--------4---4---4--------3--
6------------------------------------------
7-----5(8-5(8-5(8------4(8-4(8-4(8------3(8
8------------------------------------------
9------------------------------------------
10--5(8-------------4(8--------------3(8----
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The knee levers used are: i - raises the 4th a half tone. f - lowers the thind string a half tone.
Hope you find it useful!

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My best,
Ernie
Image
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www.buddyemmons.com



Posted: 12 Sep 2000 9:54 pm
by Ricky Davis
Here is the progression I use for B. Bowman Hop(I hope it's close Image
Also I went ahead and put the tab for just the two main sections(verse&bridge)so you get the idea. I do have this whole song the way I play it on the "Rebel and Ricky" site in the Non-pedal Hawaiian steel section.
Have fun.
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B. Bowman Hop/C6th non-pedal Hawaiian steel
(original was in E; but this is my version in C)

(intro) (Section 1)

(C) (F)
G(1)______|_______________________|____________________|
E(2)______|_______________________|____________________|
C(3)______|___0____0____0____0___0|___0___0___0___0___0|
A(4)______|___0____0____0____0___0|___0___0___0___0___0|
G(5)______|_______________________|____________________|
E(6)_0_1_2|_3____0____3____~5__4__|_3_______3___~5__4__|
C(7)______|_______________________|_____3______________|
A(8)______|_______________________|____________________|


(C) (D) (G)
1._____________________|______________________|
2._____________________|__0__0__0_0_0____0_0_0|
3.___0____0____0____0__|_~4_~4__3_2_0___~4_3_2|
4.___0____0____0____0__|______________0_______|
5._____________________|______________________|
6._3____0____3____0___0|______________________|
7._____________________|______________________|
8._____________________|______________________|

(Section 2)
(C) (F)
1._______________________|____________________|
2._______________________|____________________|
3.___0____0____0____0___0|___0___0___0___0___0|
4.___0____0____0____0___0|___0___0___0___0___0|
5._______________________|____________________|
6._3____0____3____~5__4__|_3_______3___~5__4__|
7._______________________|_____3______________|
8._______________________|____________________|


(C) (D) (G) (C)
1._____________________|______________________|
2._____________________|__0__0__0_0_0____0_0_0|
3.___0____0____0____0__|_~4_~4__3_2_0___~4_2_0|
4.___0____0____0____0__|______________0_______|
5._____________________|______________________|
6._3____0____3____0___0|______________________|
7._____________________|______________________|
8._____________________|______________________|


(Bridge section)
(F) (F#dim) (C) (F) (F#dim)(D) (G)
1._____________|__________________|_______________|____________|
2._____________|______________0__0|_______________|____________|
3._________0__0|_____________~4_~4|___________0__0|____________|
4.__0__0__~3_~3|_0~~~_____________|__0__0_0__~3_~3|_0~~________|
5._~2__2_______|_2~~0_____________|_~2__2_2_______|_2~0___0____|
6._____________|_______0__________|_______________|_____0______|
7._____________|__________0_______|_______________|_________~~2|
8._____________|__________________|_______________|_________~~2|
</pre></font>



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Posted: 13 Sep 2000 2:24 am
by Olli Haavisto
I think the progression for Hold it goes like this:
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// C7#9 / F9(13) / C7#9 / % /
/ F9 / % / C7#9 /A7#9 /
/ D9 / Db9 / C7#9 / % //
</pre></font>
That`s how I´ve written the chords out when I`ve played it.I think the solos are usually played on a 12-bar 3 chord progression, but I prefer to use the same chords as on the head.


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Olli Haavisto
Polar steeler
Finland
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 13 September 2000 at 07:31 AM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 13 Sep 2000 6:44 am
by Richard Sinkler
You guys are great. Thanks

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Posted: 14 Sep 2000 8:12 pm
by Lynn Kasdorf
Buddy Charleton showed me this cool 3-6-2-5 turn around that he plays in B Bowman. It starts playing the I chord at the V position of the key. He plays B Bowman in C, so it starts at the 7th fret (C6 tuning):
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3 - 6 - 2 - 5 turnaround in key of C


3-----7----------5##------------
4----------10----------8##------
5-----7----------5--------------
6----------10b---------8b-------
7-------------------------------
8-----7----------5--------------
9----------10----------8--------
10------------------------------

p6 p7 p6&7
III VI II V
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The bass line does a very cool chromatic walkdown. This seems to be pretty much the same as the beginning of "Night Life".


I editied this because I realized from the following post that the turn around is a 3-6-2-5, not 1-6-2-5. That first chord is some sort of E. Indeed, it appears to be an E min 7.

I love this forum!
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"You call that thing a guitar?"<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Lynn Kasdorf on 14 September 2000 at 09:15 PM.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Lynn Kasdorf on 15 September 2000 at 06:33 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 15 Sep 2000 2:11 pm
by Harry Hess
B. Bowman Hop

//: C / C / F7 / F7 / C / C / D7 / G7 /
/ C / C / F7 / F7 / C / C / D7 / G7 C /
/ F7 / F#dim7 / C / C7 / F7 / F#dim7 /
/ E-7 A7 / D-7 G7 /
/ C / C / F7 / F7 / C / C / D7 / G7 C ://

Hold It

//: C7 / F7 / C7 / C7 / F7 / F7 / C7 / A7 /
/ D7 / G7 / C7 F7 / C7 G7 ://

Richard, both of these chord progressions are on my HH RhyTrks CD's. If you are one of the purchasers on my list, to whom I have promised to email chord charts, I have completed 12 of 20 chord charts, will finish up this weekend and email all 20 to all concerned.

Regards,
HH

PS. only in the first and last verse of Hold It, should the back up guitarist play the C7 as C7#9. Also the C7#9 should be followed by plain old F7. F13 is OK, and no reason it can't be used, but the #9 of C is an Eb note, as is the b7 of the F chord. That gives you that common tone "holding it" on top.

Also Re: bar #9 of Hold It, The steel plays Db9, but the band actually should play G7. When the steel plays the Db9 over the bands G7, this is referred to as Tri-Tone Substitution. The effect is lost if everybody plays the Db9 chord.

Bars 7, 8, 9 & 10 are in reality simply a standard / I7 / VI7 / II7 / V7 / progression.
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Harry Hess on 15 September 2000 at 03:47 PM.]</p></FONT>