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Lightweight (or lighter weight) Pedal Steel?

Posted: 3 Sep 2023 11:49 am
by Bob Roden
Just curious -- I bought my last pedal steel over 40 years ago, so haven't really followed how newer models have developed.

Now I am in the process of parting with my long-time instrument, in large part because at my advancing age I no longer want to move around anything so heavy.

(It's an MSA single 12 -- listed currently in the classifieds, if you're interested.)

So I'm just wondering -- in these ensuing decades (i.e., since the 70s), has anything in the way of a lighter-weight pedal steel come along?

Thanks,
Bob

Posted: 3 Sep 2023 12:15 pm
by Craig Robson
I have a Justice Pro-Lite that weighs about 43 pounds in the case. I have nothing but good things to say about it. I also moved on from a couple old MSAs and I really appreciate the lighter weight. I think there are a pretty good number of lighter guitars in production now.

Posted: 3 Sep 2023 12:27 pm
by Greg Cutshaw
If you're transporting it anywhere make sure you consider the weight of the case. Some cases are 12 pounds or so lighter than others.

My Excel S-12 Guitar in the case weighs 38.8 pounds, case weighs 12.2 pounds and the guitar weights 26.6 pounds. It's got a lot of extra hardware on it so if you got an S-12 E9th it would be lighter.

https://www.gregcutshaw.com/Excel%20D13 ... yless.html

Posted: 6 Sep 2023 12:15 am
by Tony Prior
Short answer, YES, Stage One ,Encore and probably a few more. Very lite weight , typically E9th 3+4. I owned a Stage One for a while , used it on a few shows where we had little to no set up time between acts, get on stage then get the heck off stage :) in hind site I should have kept it.

Posted: 6 Sep 2023 3:12 am
by Jack Stoner
GFI's are light. SD-10 is 30lbs. S-12 in the same range.

GFI cases are not light. SD-10 case is 17lbs. If I were still playing out I would get a different case (or two piece).

Posted: 6 Sep 2023 7:05 am
by Ian Rae
I have an Excel similar to Greg's and I also have an S12 Willams; the actual guitar is as light as the Excel but the case is a good deal heavier. Definitely something to take into account.

Posted: 6 Sep 2023 8:20 am
by Justin Shaw
I have an Excel universal that is nice and light weight (not sure the actual lbs). It came with a wheeled, fitted flight case. So not just light, but you are rolling it instead of carrying it most of the time!

Posted: 6 Sep 2023 8:20 am
by Justin Shaw
I have an Excel universal that is nice and light weight (not sure the actual lbs). It came with a wheeled, fitted flight case. So not just light, but you are rolling it instead of carrying it most of the time!

Posted: 6 Sep 2023 5:51 pm
by Steve Lipsey
Here's where a Hatton case is the answer...my Williams is light, the case was a ton...now the combo is light...

Posted: 6 Sep 2023 7:05 pm
by Bobby D. Jones
As we get older, Light gig guitars become a way of life.

I gigged a MSA S10 4&4 for years, Weighed about 65lb. in it original case. At about my 70th birthday. I said, "I need to go lighter". I got a chance to get a GFI S12 Keyed Universal 7&4, 49lb in original case. I now also have a GFI S12 7&5 keyless Universal that is smaller and lighter too.

A few months ago my 85lb MSA D10 8&5 left home too. It now has a new home in Ohio.

Another lighter guitar

Posted: 8 Sep 2023 10:31 am
by Alan Struthers
Bob,
In an announcement a few entries ahead of yours, Fuzzy (Mitsui, Excel brand) is offering an E9 that weighs about 22 lbs called the Robostar. I've go a U12 Excel Exstar and it is relatively light and a beautiful instrument that produces a beautiful tone, so I would feel confident ordering one.
Alan

Posted: 9 Sep 2023 5:48 am
by Steve Mueller
My new Williams wide body S12 4 X 5 extended E9 weighs 25 lbs. In the case it's 41 lbs. If you get Kevin Hatton to make split cases, you could lighten up even more. It's a lot of guitar for 25 lbs, and beautiful too with laquer body and neck. Service from Bill Rudolph is tops. You need parts, advice, etc? Call and he answers the phone. Try that with Mitsuo.