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Help with split tuning on a Carter SD10

Posted: 14 Jul 2023 8:52 am
by Lanny Carnley
Is there anyone in the deep east Texas or Dallas or Houston area that can help me retune my split tuning on my Carter SD10. I've followed the instructions in the owners manual but it doesn't seem to work. Thanks.

Posted: 14 Jul 2023 12:37 pm
by Steve Lipsey
First, is this what you did? Is it the G on string 6 you are asking about?
1. Tune the raise G#-A normally
2. With the lower that (without the split) would tune G#->F#, instead use it to tune G#->G with both G#-F# lever and B pedal engaged
3. Use the split raise rod with just G#-F# engaged to fix the offset on the F#.

If it isn't clear which nylon tuners do what, you can look underneath and figure it out...the G#-F# lever will have both a lower (normal one) and a raise (split tuner)

Posted: 14 Jul 2023 5:20 pm
by Lanny Carnley
Yeah, that's the way I did it but now after tuning the lower to G with B pedal and G# to F# lever both engaged my open G# is detuned and I can't figure out whats going on. It seems like I have to run my nylon nut for the lower in farther than before.

Posted: 14 Jul 2023 5:37 pm
by Steve Lipsey
Sounds like an issue win not enough slack somewhere in the linkageā€¦

Posted: 14 Jul 2023 7:04 pm
by Lee Baucum
Perhaps "overtuning" is the issue.

Carefully read Jon Light's post, which is a "sticky" up above.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=326460

Posted: 15 Aug 2023 12:22 am
by Del Hillier
I had the same problem with my Carter. My solution was simply to change the string to a different one! At the time I was experimenting with different strings and some of them threw off my split tuning...not sure why, but I would try to go with the strings recommended for your guitar or contact Steel Guitars of Canada with your question.


Del

Posted: 15 Aug 2023 4:11 am
by Richard Sinkler
Del Hillier wrote:I had the same problem with my Carter. My solution was simply to change the string to a different one! At the time I was experimenting with different strings and some of them threw off my split tuning...not sure why, but I would try to go with the strings recommended for your guitar or contact Steel Guitars of Canada with your question.


Del
If I'm not mistaken, Al closed down and retired.

Posted: 15 Aug 2023 12:58 pm
by Paul Redmond
Call Michael Small in Austin TX at (714)717-7218.
PRR

Posted: 16 Aug 2023 7:42 am
by Del Hillier
Thanks Richard, I did not realize Steel Guitars of Canada had shut town. I sure wish Al Brisco the best - he is a really great guy. When I purchased my first pedal steel guitar (I knew nothing about them) I actually emailed Al a couple links to pedal steels that were available on Craigslist in Vancouver. Turned out one of them was a guitar he likely sold himself (had the SGC sticker on it). Anyhow, I was lucky because I was also looking at another guitar that was (and now I can tell) obviously in need of repair and refurnishing (it was a home made steel). Thanks to Al, he helped me pick the right guitar. I bought a few things from his store over the years and he was always great to order from.

Just last month I bought my second Carter from someone who had purchased it from SGC back in 2001 - haha, I have become a loyal Carter player I guess!

Del

Posted: 16 Aug 2023 10:50 am
by Richard Sinkler
Del Hillier wrote:Thanks Richard, I did not realize Steel Guitars of Canada had shut town. I sure wish Al Brisco the best - he is a really great guy. When I purchased my first pedal steel guitar (I knew nothing about them) I actually emailed Al a couple links to pedal steels that were available on Craigslist in Vancouver. Turned out one of them was a guitar he likely sold himself (had the SGC sticker on it). Anyhow, I was lucky because I was also looking at another guitar that was (and now I can tell) obviously in need of repair and refurnishing (it was a home made steel). Thanks to Al, he helped me pick the right guitar. I bought a few things from his store over the years and he was always great to order from.

Just last month I bought my second Carter from someone who had purchased it from SGC back in 2001 - haha, I have become a loyal Carter player I guess!

Del
Him closing down is a great loss to the steel guitar world. He was such a great source.