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What Is it? BETTER PIC

Post by Keith Bolog »

Thank you for the replies. Might just be a giant home made knee flag?

Dimmensions are 3x3


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Not sure where to post this. Came in a box with a steel purchase. Yea yea - Pasta portioner, etc

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Post by Bobby D. Jones »

With the hex screw in the middle and another hole at the edge. May be a knee lever flag. 5 holes just to lighten it.
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Way to thick for a knee flag. :whoa:
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Post by John Hyland »

The piece doesn’t look very big but of course it is relative and has no reference.
I suspect it isn’t related to a pedal steel at all.
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Post by Dennis Detweiler »

What's the dimensions? Size of holes? Could be a bill for a metal baseball cap? Or, a steel players front tooth?
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Also, is the underside flat or is it convex as the visible side appears to be?
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Post by Dennis Detweiler »

My guess, it mounts on the side of a puller to add another pull rod to the next string on a 1+1 or 2+2 changer? However, the rod would have to be anchored to it or a ShoBud barrel tuner incorporated? Hence, multiple holes to line up the rod? The extra hole at its edge is for a roll pin. Wild guess. Otherwise, I stick to my other guess, a steel players front tooth. :D
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Post by Charlie Hansen »

If you save the picture to your computer and go to google and ask What's this , click the camera button and upload the picture it shows a number of things that it could be.

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Post by Chris Lucker »

I like Dennis' speculation about it being to expand the reach of a bellcrank, except that the through holes seem more suited for cross shafts than for pull rods, or pedal rods for that matter.

Thinking about knee levers again, could it be added to the lower portion of a knee lever to facilitate moving the knee a couple inches without moving its cross shaft? Could it be a part to make a vertical knee lever mount?
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Post by Jon Light »

If I'm seeing this properly, those holes are around 3/4".
For reference, round Sho-Bud cross shafts are around 5/16" -- less than half the size of these holes. This makes me recalibrate my imagination a lot as I work on this puzzle.
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Post by Chris Lucker »

Jon, you are right about the hole sizes.

Maybe a guide for cables -- electric cables -- but why?

The piece is looking more like a knee lever flag as mentioned earlier.
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Post by Bobby D. Jones »

What size is the diameter of the Allen screw? The shadow on the picture makes it hard to see and measure.
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FIRST OFF thanks for all the replies.

The allen takes a 3/16 wrench and has coarse threads not sure what pitch.

Large holes are indeed .75" Ever so slightly imperfectly spaced = hand made

The other side is flat not beveled and there is a chamfer barely visible in the first picture.

The second 'allen' hole is a pilot hole, unthreaded, and is not centered. Someone spent a lot of time finishing it, the beveled top, rounded edges, chamfer, and polishing. That hole could be an exasperating mistake at the end of the project, then again the maker wouldnt wait until the very end to drill and tap. Right?

As a flag it is a bit massive @ 5 oz tho it would be very comfortable. Think about this: what knee lever is oriented to mount this on? The fat allen would have to go through the narrow cross section of most KLs. I could see it working as a vertical KL somehow.

Maybe its aluminum scrap unrelated to anything guitar-ish, and ended up in the box of misc. The owner is long gone.

AND another thing - Google lens finds nothing similar.

Thanks again everyone.
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Post by Dennis Detweiler »

Now that it's size is revealed, it sounds unrelated to steel guitar.
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Post by Ross Shafer »

Cap screw is a 1/4-20.
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Post by Lee Baucum »

A rare prototype of a part Paul Bigsby was working on.

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Post by Dan Otranto »

Yes!
The pickups Bigsby put on a lot of the guitars he made had black oxide cap screws as the pole pieces.
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I wonder if maybe it was used to neatly route mike cables to a PA. Like a snake, but primitive...

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I don't know what it is and I don't believe it has anything to do with steel guitar.
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Post by Greg Forsyth »

My imagination tells me its a clutch foot rest pedal that was bolted to the sidewall in the old time cars. Rest your foot on it will not clutching. Some imagination , eh?
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It's a thing-a-ma-jig. :whoa:
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Maybe the maker didn't really understand how brass knuckles work?
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Post by Charlie Hansen »

It's a Noodin-Naddin for a goose's bridle.
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Hot Rod or custom motorcycle part…maybe😎

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Was the "thing-a-ma-jig" invented before the "do-dad"??
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