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Can you sing while playing PSG?
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 6:36 am
by Fred Rogan
I am not coordinated enough to sing while playing pedal steel and it seems I don't see many other steel players singing while playing so just wondering.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 8:23 am
by Harrison Dole
i can sing and play while playing other instruments, but psg just has a bit too much going on for me. it could be that i'm fairly new to the instrument or it may be something i never quite get down. hard to say, but at the moment i can't.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 8:35 am
by Fred Rogan
Same with me Harrison in that I can sing and play guitar at the same time.
About 10 years ago I was at a steel guitar event sponsored by the late Steel Guitars of Nashville. One of the featured pedal steel players at that event also sang lead. Wish I could remember his name.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 8:52 am
by Tommy Mc
When I play guitar and sing, I use the instrument as a reference to keep my voice on pitch. Since the pedal steel doesn't have fixed frets, I lose my reference. I find it hard to keep both my voice and steel properly intonated.
Can I sing while playing?
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 10:28 am
by Gil James
No. And it befuddles me. I have sang while playing guitar for years in a Gospel group and solo, without even thinking about it. But when I introduced the steel to our music, I have to let someone else sing if I am playing on the Carter. Tommy makes a good point which I haven't considered, but I think it has more to do with missing the rhythm in the strumming for me. I've only seen a few guys on here that do sing while playing,Pete Nichols being one.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 10:52 am
by Brooks Montgomery
No. And I can't sing while having sex either. Too much going on.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 10:56 am
by Tony Glassman
I can’t sing and even if I could I wouldn’t be able to sing and play Pedal Steel.
My buddies Larry Behm and Harley James (PDX area) can do it without any problem. It never ceases to amaze me.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 11:12 am
by Richard Sinkler
I lied. I voted that I don't sing at all. I can sing when I play piano, but not good enough for public consumption.
Truth be told, in 1999 I moved to Montana. The real reason was I was kicked out of California for singing. Some obscure law about mentally deranged steel players singing where others can hear. 🗣
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 11:29 am
by Pat Chong
I, too, sang while playing guitar, and thought it would be just as easy, with PSG.
Not as easy, but I can sing a few. My licks are reduced in number while singing, and if I were to throw in a new lick, I sometimes get lost........Pat
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 11:47 am
by David Higginbotham
We’ve had a few players here that were lead singers in Cajun music that played steel and they never missed a lick. Played all the fills and lead parts while they sang and they were top notch at both.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 1:40 pm
by Jerry Overstreet
Not me, yet, but I have acquaintances and good friends that sing lead or harmony while playing steel.
One of them, not only did all the lead singing but also fronted a band for several years. He played steel patched through the FOH system, monitors along with the vocals...did a great job too.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 1:57 pm
by Ben Lawson
I used to play bass and sing. When I started playing steel, I must have been unaware that it was difficult to sing and play steel. I could sing better than play. I eventually could do both with equally great mediocrity. I guess that's where I am now. It depends too, on how well the band plays. If they're good, and don't make you worry about timing or hitting the right notes, it's great.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 2:54 pm
by D Schubert
I can do either or both. However, either sounds much better than both.
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 3:22 pm
by Ian Rae
Reading these posts has removed any temptation I might have had. Thank you, Forum!
Posted: 26 Oct 2022 9:45 pm
by Brendan Mitchell
No
Posted: 27 Oct 2022 4:50 am
by Scott Denniston
I think with a LOT of practice it would become natural like with guitar. But every time I sit down to practice I feel way behind on stuff I want to work on so singing while playing steel is way down the list.
Posted: 27 Oct 2022 11:33 am
by Bryce Van Parys
Harmonies; yes. Leads; only if the steel part is easy (as in chords only). Lead vocals/steel leads, heck no unless I really, REALLY know the lyrics and don't have to think about the vocals
Posted: 27 Oct 2022 12:34 pm
by Howard Parker
Harmony singer here so, yep. Typically comp chords or simple lines if backing up.
From my bluegrass, dobro background.
You play..You sing.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2022 12:41 pm
by David Dorwart
Yes. I just chord on the steel whilst singing - nothing fancy
Posted: 27 Oct 2022 6:24 pm
by Fred Martin
Thats a matter of opinion but Hell Yeah. You got to work at it some. And if you couldnt sing to start with that may be a problem.
Posted: 27 Oct 2022 6:49 pm
by Fred Treece
Harmonies while comping chords. I sing backup oohs and ahhs too, but I find that the steel conflicts, so I just drop it out. If I’m singing lead, forget it. I just pick up the guitar. I think a lead singer should be on their feet anyway.
Until recently, I’ve always been in bands where everybody is expected to sing and sing well. I am half of that…
Posted: 27 Oct 2022 7:22 pm
by Jon Voth
Yes, but it's the hardest thing to do ever. George Thorogood "Move it on Over" you can sing & comp but then take solos like he does is one thing.
Heartaches by the # is harder; trying to do fills while singing-I sometimes lose my place as I am playing-man it is the worst-why does my band do this to me?
Some people get on a unicycle, juggle things, and then talk to the crowd. If they can do it.....
Posted: 27 Oct 2022 10:05 pm
by Skip Edwards
Why would you?
You shouldn't step all over the vocal, no matter who's singing...
If you've ever seen Chuck Back do it... sing a line, play a fill, sing a line, play a fill, you'd totally get it...
Posted: 28 Oct 2022 5:14 am
by Bob Carlucci
I did it for many many years, harmonies and lots of lead as well... Then over the years, as I played more 6 string electric guitar and became more of a "lead singer"[1/3 to 1/2 the songs in any given set], I noticed it was SO much more difficult as time went on.. I attribute that to simply doing it less and less as time went on, and found myself more and more defaulting to just playing guitar when I had to sind lead... For me then it was simply a matter of 'use it or lose it".. When I was the "steel player" I could sing comfortably and effectively while playing pedal steel. I did not play as much while singing, less fill licks and such, but was still accurate, and not really dropping out much..
Then as the years passed, and the bands got smaller, and I played more guitar, I wanted to play 6 string when I sang, and after a time found it much harder to play steel and sing at the same time.. Nowadays??. I doubt I could pull it off at all... bob
Steel
Posted: 28 Oct 2022 3:37 pm
by Jerry Horch
I'm still working on just looking up.....actually...I gave up on it....