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Steel where it "doesn't belong"

Posted: 12 Sep 2022 4:26 am
by Jim Pollard
Man. Had such a great time this weekend. First official paid gig for pedal steel playing with some friends who do soul, funk, jazz. It makes me so very happy to introduce steel to people in contexts they wouldn't have otherwise considered. Most notably on this gig "If You Want Me To Stay" by Sly and Family Stone!

Posted: 12 Sep 2022 5:59 am
by Ian Rae
I can identify with that. Our band plays a similar variety of material where the steel doesn't "belong" but is quite capable of making itself at home. We have yet to perform a C&W song.

Posted: 12 Sep 2022 12:08 pm
by Dave Grafe
I love playing real music

Steel

Posted: 13 Sep 2022 11:00 am
by Larry Allen
We also play every genre, I think piano when I’m on steel unless it’s country.. :D

Posted: 13 Sep 2022 12:43 pm
by Howard Parker
This is as far out as I've ever been.

**Warning** - Turn the volume down!

Can you hear it? Asked to put down a subtle layer.

Your thing? probably not. My thing,? Nope!

A known touring band with a vision. Incredible to work with.

h

- edit Caustic Casanova, a real band. Nice folks. A real label. Tour approx 25 weeks/year. All over this great land! (Without me though..)

Yeah..There's a story behind my involvement. ;-)

Posted: 13 Sep 2022 12:58 pm
by Jerry Overstreet
First thing we gotta do is quit saying and thinking it doesn't belong. It's a musical instrument just like any other and only limited by it's players.

I have to admit it's not always easy to find a fit, but my little crowd plays everything from Bach to Bachman Turner Overdrive and everything in between. It's all music and it's just the instrument I chose to express it..

Good on you snd your group for being one of those that's not afraid to put it out there in any context.

Posted: 13 Sep 2022 7:18 pm
by Kenny Davis
Back around 1984-85 while on a hiatus from Mountain Smoke Band, I had the good fortune to play with a popular group in OKC that was known as a "show" and dance band. They had the most diverse catalog of songs of anyone I'd heard. Jerry Tanner and the Contagious Brothers evolved from a very popular rock group from Minot, North Dakota known as The Embermen Five. The group split and the brothers Jerry & Larry moved to Oklahoma in the early 1970's. I likened them to Donnie & Marie - Larry was Country and Jerry was Rock N' Roll. Larry pressed Jerry to hire me to replace their outgoing keyboard guy. They played predominately Hotel clubs, doing 5-6 nighters. I was thrown into learning a wide variety of material, plus expected to perform in one of three "specialty shows" on Saturday nights. We would take an extended break after the second set and change into the evening's show outfits. These consisted of 50's, Village People, and Elvis shows. Crowds were good all week, but the Saturday night shows packed the places.

I have to say it was probably the best job I've had based on challenging my abilities and putting myself out there in the shows. I look back and wonder how I did a 40 minute Village People gig complete with vocals and choreography, much less singing Johnny Angel in the 50's show! I also enjoyed the very wide variety of their fan base.

After reading the comments on this thread, I went back to listen to some stuff I recorded one night before I left the band. As you will see, It's quite varied!

Ramblin Fever
For the Good Times
Slow Burn
Only One You/Loved Them Everyone
Silver Threads
Red Red Wine
It Doesn't Matter Anymore - Buddy Holly
Billie Jean
My Way
Burning Love
Caribbean Queen
Back On My Mind Again
Hurt
Talking In Your Sleep
She Used To Be My Girl (Four Tops)
Years - Barbara Mandrell
Comman Man
The Night Owl - Little River Band
50's Medley
Motown Medley: Come See About Me/Stop In the Name of Love/It's the Same Old Song/I Can't Help Myself/Ain't Too Proud To Beg/634-5789/My Girl
Disco (Funk) Medley: Play That Funky Music/Back In Love Again/Fire/LeFreak/Sanctified
Sweet Caroline
Ferry Cross the Mersey
Oh, Lonesome Me
Blue Blue Day
Sea of Heartbreak
...many others


Moral of the story, jump in and play anything you can stand for 2 or 3 hours at a time. It all builds your tool chest.

Posted: 14 Sep 2022 7:36 am
by K Maul
I have ALWAYS played everything on steel from Jimmie Rodgers and Hank Williams to Beatles and Sun Ra. In all cases I just hang on for dear life and do my best.

Re: Steel

Posted: 14 Sep 2022 10:22 am
by Ian Rae
Larry Allen wrote:We also play every genre, I think piano when I’m on steel unless it’s country.. :D
I guess that's my function a lot of the time. I often use a chorus effect that conjures the spirit of a Fender Rhodes :)

Like various guys have said, it's all music and the pedal steel, special though it is to us, is just another instrument as far as the public is concerned.

Sounds

Posted: 14 Sep 2022 10:56 am
by Larry Allen
Ian, here’s what I use for the different sounds, Alexis Midiverb 4, Larry :D
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Posted: 15 Sep 2022 1:23 pm
by John Macy
My wife would probably say the living room…,

Posted: 15 Sep 2022 6:13 pm
by Darrell Criswell
I know a musician that refuses to play any song written after 1963!

Posted: 16 Sep 2022 12:21 am
by Ian Rae
That's interesting, Larry. Currently I make do with the Lexicon MX200 that came with my Telonics rack.

Posted: 18 Sep 2022 1:31 pm
by Henry Matthews
Darrell Criswell wrote:I know a musician that refuses to play any song written after 1963!
Sure missing a lot of good country music.🥴

Posted: 18 Sep 2022 1:35 pm
by Howard Parker
Henry Matthews wrote:
Darrell Criswell wrote:I know a musician that refuses to play any song written after 1963!
Sure missing a lot of good country music.🥴
Indeed!
h

Posted: 18 Sep 2022 1:42 pm
by Henry Matthews
Howard Parker wrote:
Henry Matthews wrote:
Darrell Criswell wrote:I know a musician that refuses to play any song written after 1963!
Sure missing a lot of good country music.🥴
You're not looking in the right places. There's plenty around.

Good luck in your search.

h
I lost you Howard, I meant there was a lot of good country music after 1963😊

Posted: 18 Sep 2022 1:46 pm
by Howard Parker
Ha..I read that completely backwards and have edited my response.

Thanks for the correction!!

h

Posted: 18 Sep 2022 5:15 pm
by Kenny Davis
Henry Matthews wrote:
Howard Parker wrote:
Henry Matthews wrote:
Darrell Criswell wrote:I know a musician that refuses to play any song written after 1963!
Sure missing a lot of good country music.🥴
You're not looking in the right places. There's plenty around.

Good luck in your search.

h
I lost you Howard, I meant there was a lot of good country music after 1963😊
Yes, there is a lot of great Country Music after 1963. But - It pretty much stopped after 1993!!!