Packaseat Owners: How Often Does this Happen to You...?
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Packaseat Owners: How Often Does this Happen to You...?
How often does it happen that you forget to close your latches and pick up your seat to carry it -- and EVERYTHING falls out all over the floor?!
Probably about 3x a year for me. Always a party...Aaarghhh!
Probably about 3x a year for me. Always a party...Aaarghhh!
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Not yet. I do have a habit of leaving the lid unlatched when I sit down to play. I guess I'm just too lazy to button it up in case I need to go back in for something.
When I would visit my friend Boogie, if I lifted the lid for some reason and didn't latch it back per my M.O., he would say, no, didn't get it and be sure that I latched it back.
Besides the possibility of spilling the contents, he said sitting on it unlatched let the top wiggle and was hard on the hinges and fasteners, which is true.
When I would visit my friend Boogie, if I lifted the lid for some reason and didn't latch it back per my M.O., he would say, no, didn't get it and be sure that I latched it back.
Besides the possibility of spilling the contents, he said sitting on it unlatched let the top wiggle and was hard on the hinges and fasteners, which is true.
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The pivot point of the hinge is far enough back that it does not take much at all to flip you over if it's not latched. When my back starts objecting, I'll lean back against the backrest and push a little to relieve the cramping. That's when it can bite you.Jim Cohen wrote: But wouldn't your weight on the seat prevent you from falling backwards?
I once started to pick up the case - with the steel in it - and realized just in time I had not latched it!
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I have seen a few steel seats someone made years ago that only had 1 latch in the middle of the lid. It was so close to the handle that if someone thought they would help you, And picked the seat up with the cushion toward their leg, Their fingers would catch the latch. What happened next was "A revolting development".
I seen a seat picked up to get it out of a players vehicle, And the contents dumped. Next time I saw that seat it had 3 latches on it.
As a Wildlife Officer, I had a man asking questions about a regulation from my job while loading my gear after a gig. Got down the road a mile or so and something did not feel right. I stopped, Looked at the back seat of my vehicle, Seat and Amp. present, Opened trunk, No steel. Went back and there sat my MSA on the sidewalk at the venue.
I seen a seat picked up to get it out of a players vehicle, And the contents dumped. Next time I saw that seat it had 3 latches on it.
As a Wildlife Officer, I had a man asking questions about a regulation from my job while loading my gear after a gig. Got down the road a mile or so and something did not feel right. I stopped, Looked at the back seat of my vehicle, Seat and Amp. present, Opened trunk, No steel. Went back and there sat my MSA on the sidewalk at the venue.
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Same here...Dave wrote:Yup, just once, and that one cured me for life
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One time years ago I had to fly to a gig and my seat had to go as checked baggage.
To keep the backrest from flopping all over the place I wrapped a bungie cord around the whole seat. When my seat came down the ramp at baggage claim I saw that the latch had sprung open somehow, and the only thing holding it closed was the bungie.
Whew...major disaster averted. Installed a new latch with a key lock so that sort of thing could never happen again.
And yeah, I've picked it up with the latch open before. D'oh!
To keep the backrest from flopping all over the place I wrapped a bungie cord around the whole seat. When my seat came down the ramp at baggage claim I saw that the latch had sprung open somehow, and the only thing holding it closed was the bungie.
Whew...major disaster averted. Installed a new latch with a key lock so that sort of thing could never happen again.
And yeah, I've picked it up with the latch open before. D'oh!
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I wouldn't consider myself a fully-seasoned pro if I hadn't done that at least once.
Mine doesn't travel these days. The other day, I noticed that Mrs. R had hung a pair of my pants over the backrest!
An afterthought: If I left it unlatched today and moved it, the consequences would indeed be dire. All my various tool-bags are unzipped and there's loose stuff everywhere: bell-cranks, E-clips, Allen wrenches and lots more. It all weighs a ton!!!
Mine doesn't travel these days. The other day, I noticed that Mrs. R had hung a pair of my pants over the backrest!
An afterthought: If I left it unlatched today and moved it, the consequences would indeed be dire. All my various tool-bags are unzipped and there's loose stuff everywhere: bell-cranks, E-clips, Allen wrenches and lots more. It all weighs a ton!!!
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Here's my solution when the pack seat has to go in a trailer or bus or whatever. Found this case at an electronics salvage place for 20 bucks. It just fits my pack seat, and it's not super heavy. Besides avoiding the 'latch got popped open' disaster, it protects the vinyl/pad from 'trailer rash'.
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Re: Packaseat Owners: How Often Does this Happen to You...?
Never done that, BUT those open latches will chew up the back of your legs in a hurryJim Cohen wrote:How often does it happen that you forget to close your latches and pick up your seat to carry it -- and EVERYTHING falls out all over the floor?!
Probably about 3x a year for me. Always a party...Aaarghhh!
Dale Rottacker, Steelinatune™
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*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
https://msapedalsteels.com
http://rittenberrysteelguitars.com
https://www.telonics.com/index.php
https://www.p2pamps.com
https://www.quilterlabs.com
Re: Packaseat Owners: How Often Does this Happen to You...?
Oh yeah!Never done that, BUT those open latches will chew up the back of your legs in a hurry