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Carl Smith: "The Way I Lose My Mind"
Posted: 8 Nov 2021 6:12 am
by Frank Freniere
Caught this song watching season 3 of "Narcos: Mexico" on Netflix. Sounds like Chalker (with hints of Jerry Byrd).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y2vD7uwLuk
Posted: 8 Nov 2021 12:44 pm
by Roy McKinney
I would vote for Johnny Sibert
Carl Smith
Posted: 8 Nov 2021 4:11 pm
by David Zornes
It sounds like Pete Drake is all over this.
Posted: 8 Nov 2021 4:17 pm
by Donny Hinson
Definitely E9th with pedals, so that lets out both Johnny and Jerry. I also find it reminiscent of Chalker's style (but not his tone), and it has some of that Hughey touch, too. Bar slants sound too perfect for Pete...dunno really, maybe Lloyd?
addendum - (because I have thousands of songs in my old head)
I thought I'd played that song before, it really sounded familiar. But then I remembered the
very similar song by The Sons Of The Pioneers that I did quite often many decades ago. Here's a more modern version of that other song featuring Rex Allen Jr., and with similar (but less) steel work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgc4TDy2AN4
Posted: 8 Nov 2021 5:30 pm
by Chad Karnitz
It’s Chalker.
Posted: 8 Nov 2021 11:29 pm
by Terry Wood
I'd guess Curly "Curls" Chalker!
Carl Smith
Posted: 9 Nov 2021 3:30 pm
by David Zornes
Curly could emulate other steel players aside from his own master touch, but after thinking about it I believe it could very well be Chalker.
Posted: 9 Nov 2021 6:11 pm
by Bill Cunningham
To my ear that is classic Chalker E9 ballad style which IMO was influenced by Hughey and Pete. (And good influences too if you were a jazzer at heart but wanted to make money as a Nashville session picker!!
)
This tune was posted on FB by Steve Hinson, a prolific session musician historian who I never disagree with. He said it’s Pete but for once in my life I am not agreeing with Hinson.
And by the way, put on some good headphones and listen to the killer rhythm section. A couple of flattops and the piano along with the drums and bass. So rich. My favorite era and style of country music! I was just born too late and didn’t go down the music career path anyway……
Posted: 10 Nov 2021 9:38 am
by Bill Cunningham
Well I guess I will eat my words from my post above.
I got a message from Mr. Hinson and he talked with session guitarist Dale Sellers who confirmed it was Pete on the cut we have been discussing.
However, there is another version of the same song and Steve says this is Curley. Here you go.
https://youtu.be/GbjwhHsOx0w
Posted: 10 Nov 2021 5:35 pm
by Bobby Boggs
I have a lot of respect for both Dale and Steve. But it sounds more Curly than Pete to me. Even though it's not Curly's most used tone. Just having a hard time accepting this.
Carl Smith
Posted: 11 Nov 2021 12:03 pm
by David Zornes
Bill Cunningham wrote:Well I guess I will eat my words from my post above.
I got a message from Mr. Hinson and he talked with session guitarist Dale Sellers who confirmed it was Pete on the cut we have been discussing.
However, there is another version of the same song and Steve says this is Curley. Here you go.
https://youtu.be/GbjwhHsOx0w
Curly’s tone and approach, on this song, has influences by Pete and John. But My earlier assessment stands correct-it was Pete.
Posted: 11 Nov 2021 1:13 pm
by Jim Hoke
Best tone EVER!
Posted: 26 Dec 2021 5:49 pm
by Abe Stoklasa
Intro reminds me of brumley, I dunno
Posted: 26 Dec 2021 9:37 pm
by Rick Campbell
Donny Hinson wrote:Definitely E9th with pedals, so that lets out both Johnny and Jerry. I also find it reminiscent of Chalker's style (but not his tone), and it has some of that Hughey touch, too. Bar slants sound too perfect for Pete...dunno really, maybe Lloyd?
addendum - (because I have thousands of songs in my old head)
I thought I'd played that song before, it really sounded familiar. But then I remembered the
very similar song by The Sons Of The Pioneers that I did quite often many decades ago. Here's a more modern version of that other song featuring Rex Allen Jr., and with similar (but less) steel work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgc4TDy2AN4
Do you know who's playing on the Rex Jr. cut?
RC
Posted: 27 Dec 2021 9:22 am
by Walter Stettner
Curly is on a lot of Carl Smith albums, the Columbia albums from the 1960s feature both Johnny Siebert and Curly.
Here's another track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-F8rR2xKmw
Please note that this tracks comes from the album "A Way With Words", not as shown on the picture.
Kind Regards, Walter
Posted: 27 Dec 2021 9:27 am
by Walter Stettner
Sorry, forgot, that's definitely Pete on the Rex Allen Jr. track.
And speaking of Curly's ballad side, here's one with Hank Thompson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3xSITz4hM
Steel break at 2:05 is awesome!
Kind Regards, Walter
Posted: 27 Dec 2021 10:50 am
by John Sluszny
Walter Stettner wrote:Sorry, forgot, that's definitely Pete on the Rex Allen Jr. track.
And speaking of Curly's ballad side, here's one with Hank Thompson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3xSITz4hM
Steel break at 2:05 is awesome!
Kind Regards, Walter
First verse too !
Posted: 27 Dec 2021 12:38 pm
by Frank Freniere
Walter Stettner wrote:Sorry, forgot, that's definitely Pete on the Rex Allen Jr. track.
And speaking of Curly's ballad side, here's one with Hank Thompson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3xSITz4hM
Steel break at 2:05 is awesome!
Kind Regards, Walter
Tab for Hank's "Mark of A Heel:"
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtop ... ht=chalker
Posted: 27 Dec 2021 12:42 pm
by Frank Freniere
John Sluszny wrote:Walter Stettner wrote:Sorry, forgot, that's definitely Pete on the Rex Allen Jr. track.
And speaking of Curly's ballad side, here's one with Hank Thompson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3xSITz4hM
Steel break at 2:05 is awesome!
Kind Regards, Walter
First verse too !
A walk-up from "Mark of A Heel:"
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtop ... ht=chalker
Posted: 27 Dec 2021 12:58 pm
by Dave Zirbel
Did big Jim Murphy play with Carl in the early/mid 60's?