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Topic: One pedal and four strings |
Andrew Goulet
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Posted 10 Jul 2021 12:09 pm |
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If you had a pedal steel with four strings and one pedal, what copedent would you use?
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12 string Bill Hatcher lap steel
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 10 Jul 2021 2:49 pm
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G
E
C—->C#
A
Nice wide string spacing for slants, and I’d have Charlie make me a Slide Pro capo for it too. |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 10 Jul 2021 3:26 pm
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What prompted the question? Not a real guitar? So what then?
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Andrew Goulet
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Posted 10 Jul 2021 3:33 pm
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That's a sensible solution Doug!
Simple and cool Fred!
Ian, just a little challenge I thought of today at rehearsal. I guess theorycrafting simple guitars has been in my mind from reading Jimmie Hudson's earlier thread.
It does raise some interesting questions. Do you get a triad? Go with harmonized pairs? How many chords or useable fragments could you get?
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12 string Bill Hatcher lap steel
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 11 Jul 2021 1:01 am
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Now I see. Jimmy's idea of an expandable instrument is a good one. Just as we gradually learn what the changes do on a full-blown 3x5, we could instead physically add them as required. I would start with A&B and the old-fashioned lever that lowers 2 and 8.
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Andrew Goulet
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Posted 11 Jul 2021 6:03 am
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I was more thinking what if you had just one pedal, and four strings total. So you could pick A or B or a lever but not all (unless your one pedal made all those changes).
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12 string Bill Hatcher lap steel
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Andrew Frost
From:
Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 11 Jul 2021 10:54 am
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Ab
F > E
D
Bb > B
Maybe not in real life though.  Interesting thought experiment. If you had one shoe, where would you step? |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 11 Jul 2021 3:04 pm
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The very first pedal was to give a quick change from an E tuning to an A to save switching necks. So I would raise G# and B to A and C#. That's what Bud Isaacs did. Emmons and Day later split it up and the rest is history.
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Bill Miller
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Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 11 Jul 2021 7:12 pm
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| Or perhaps one string and four pedals.... |
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Andrew Frost
From:
Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 11 Jul 2021 9:35 pm
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Bill Miller
PostPosted: 11 Jul 2021 7:12pm Post subject:
Or perhaps one string and four pedals....
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One string eh?
Tuned pure or straight-up? 😅 |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 12 Jul 2021 12:46 am
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For a while I did own a guitar with four strings, one pedal and one lever.
This was while I was building my first 12-string universal. I figured that strings 5-8 were the heart of the instrument in both tunings, and I needed to test the designs of the pedal and lever mechanisms.
This included hooking them both to string 5 to test the split function. A test bed, though, not a working instrument.
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Andrew Goulet
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Posted 12 Jul 2021 2:38 pm
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How about...
C---->B
Ab--->A
F---->F#
D---->E
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