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Paul Wade


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Post  Posted 7 Jul 2021 5:46 am    
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i just put this change on my 4th peda???l E9th
B TO C# AND G# TO A. Can any one give me a example on how to use this change

p.w
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Paul Wade


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mundelein,ill
Post  Posted 7 Jul 2021 7:17 am     crawford change on E9th 4th pedal??
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LOL what i have is the franklin change Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Laughing
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 8 Jul 2021 6:37 am    
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If you already have A&B pedals, I don’t know why you would need that change.

The Franklin change lowers strings 5-6-10 a whole step (B-A, and G#-F#).


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Paul Wade


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mundelein,ill
Post  Posted 8 Jul 2021 9:03 am     Franklin change
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Fred
Yes I know but the Franklin change
Is hole different ball game just want some ideas on using it.

P.w
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Pete Bailey


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Seattle, WA
Post  Posted 8 Jul 2021 9:11 am    
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Fred Treece wrote:
If you already have A&B pedals, I don’t know why you would need that change.

Because it allows a 4 chord with a 5 root (10-6-5 grip) and a baseline fret 4maj7 (6-5-3 grip) among other things.

Both are very useful in certain circumstances. I find myself searching for work-arounds to get those voicings all the time.
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Fred Treece


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Post  Posted 8 Jul 2021 9:40 am    
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I think I misunderstood the OP. Sorry.
That 4/5 chord is on BC pedals, same strings.
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Cappone dAngelo


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Vancouver, BC, Canada
Post  Posted 8 Jul 2021 12:52 pm     Re: Franklin change
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Paul Wade wrote:
Fred
Yes I know but the Franklin change
Is hole different ball game just want some ideas on using it.

P.w


I'm new to PSG, but so far I'm using the Franklin pedal mainly for:

1. parallel 3rds melodic movement - for example, in open position the A+B gives the diatonic notes above the 3rd and 5th in E major, and the Franklin pedal gives the diatonic notes below the 3rd and 5th. This is especially useful where the root (or other note) is sustained and I don't want to move the bar to get the lowered notes (since that would move the root or other sustained note down also). Or, you can think of these as suspensions over the I chord - M2 and P4 below the M3 and P5, respectively (whereas the A+B pedals give the P4 and M6 suspensions above the M3 and P5, respectively).

2. For dominant harmony - for example, in open position the F# and A are the 5th and m7 of the V7 chord in E, or the m3 and diminished 5th of the vii chord - so pairing the Franklin pedal with the E->D# lever gives another voicing for dominant harmony in the home position.

Check out the first notes in this - that's the 'sound' that I was going after with the Franklin pedal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq_nz4CGXnU
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