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Want to eliminate string on Volume Pedal

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 7:48 am
by Marty Broussard
Hey folks,
Can anyone point me to a source for some sprockets and other parts that I could utilize to eliminate the string on my pot pedal? Seems like I remember several years ago there were some pedals available with a sprocket and (rail?) arrangement.

Don’t want to be forced to make the parts if I can avoid it.

Thank you for any help!!

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 8:27 am
by Rick Barnhart
My first thought was maybe contact Doug Earnest of Stage One Steels. His volume pedals use a geared mechanism.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 8:41 am
by Marty Broussard
Thank you, Rick. I’ll try to get an update on his health before contacting him.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 9:19 am
by Ian Worley

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 9:33 am
by Marty Broussard
Thank you, Ian.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 10:08 am
by Erv Niehaus
The old DeArmond pedals used a system like that. :D
Erv

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 10:19 am
by Tom Campbell
Try Ernie Ball for parts. I think they used a geared system at one time.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 10:23 am
by Marty Broussard
Erv, you just reminded me that this is where I saw it. I was 12 years old and it was on my DeArmond pedal. For my birthday I received a Sho~Bud pedal from my parents. A lllooonnnggg time ago.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 10:30 am
by Tom Campbell
Here are some gears for the pot. The "rack" should be the corresponding gear strip...unfortunately no picture.
http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcomme ... pinions-1/
http://www.amprepairparts.com/dunlop.htm
Scroll down page to picture of gear strip.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 12:05 pm
by Marty Broussard
Thank you, Tom. Getting allot of good info.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 12:37 pm
by Bill A. Moore
The Dunlops have a gear on the pot, and a "rack" actuated by the pedal. Not sure if the stroke is long enough for the pedal you have. My EB has a longer throw than the Dunlop pedal/wahs that I have.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 12:54 pm
by Ken Pippus
At the risk of stating the obvious, ain’t no string in a Hilton or Telonics pedal!

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 1:00 pm
by Doug Earnest
I sent you an email Marty.

Thanks for being considerate! I'm feeling pretty good and am back to work.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 2:05 pm
by Jim Cooley
Marty - I recently bought two Emmons fixed pin volume pedals, one for myself and one for a friend. I was surprised to see that one of them has the rack and gear instead of a pot.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 2:58 pm
by Jerry Overstreet
I'm pretty sure I still have all the rack and gear components off an old Red Baron body mounted volume pedal mechanism. I'll try to dig it out if you need it. I expect Doug can fix you up though.

Posted: 1 Jun 2021 5:39 pm
by Jim Robbins
Schaller made vps with a rack and pinion mechanism. I had one but wasn't crazy about the feel.

Re: Want to eliminate string on Volume Pedal

Posted: 12 Jun 2021 4:50 am
by Kavi Montanaro
Marty Broussard wrote:Hey folks,
Can anyone point me to a source for some sprockets and other parts that I could utilize to eliminate the string on my pot pedal? Seems like I remember several years ago there were some pedals available with a sprocket and (rail?) arrangement.

Don’t want to be forced to make the parts if I can avoid it.

Thank you for any help!!
Just out of the blue, I have a Lehle pedal, there is no mechanical mechanism at all. It uses a magnet somehow - very smooth and quiet.

Posted: 12 Jun 2021 6:20 am
by Erv Niehaus
Just for curiosity sake, what have you got against a string? :whoa:
Erv

Posted: 12 Jun 2021 7:15 am
by Marty Broussard
Erv,
Not really a problem. I’m VERY taxed for time (holding the Tracy gig and my day job) so when I had to use a spare pedal a few weeks ago I decided to investigate how much trouble it would take to convert my pedals to rack and pinions. Subsequent to making this post I realized I’ve only broken 2 strings in 40+ years so I’m not sure I’ll pursue it, EXCEPT for purchasing 2 of Doug’s volume pedals and selling my Goodrich L120 pedals. I don’t have time to convert the ones I have and Doug’s have an almost exact footprint etc.

Posted: 13 Jun 2021 5:03 am
by Norbert Dengler
i recommend doug`s stage 1 pedal, i use one for about two years at home and on stage and like it a lot.
very light, a little smaller than a Goodrich but smooth and reliable.
i use a clamp so it doesn't move.
also very affordable, overall a great product!

Posted: 13 Jun 2021 7:26 am
by John Talbott
Hi Marty,
Here’s a pic of an Encore with one of Doug’s vp’s attached.
I can send pix of the underside of the pedal and bracket if you’d like.


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Posted: 14 Jun 2021 5:08 am
by Gary Spaeth
the old msa sidekicks had a pedal (like the a,b,c pedals)on the far right side that attached by a rod to the volume control pot.

Posted: 14 Jun 2021 2:28 pm
by Paddy Long
Get a Telonics volume pedal --- end of all issues known to man kind....