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Lap Newbie Help

Posted: 11 Mar 2021 10:48 am
by James Venverloh
I need some advice. I really want to start playing lap steel. Been playing PSG for a while. Should I get a 6 string or an 8 string. Don't know anything about brands, tunings OR having one built. Price range up to $750.Any advice would be appreciated. I'm anxious to get started.
Jim

Posted: 11 Mar 2021 10:52 am
by Bill McCloskey
8 strings
C6 tuning
There are any number of builders here on the forum who can make you a great 8 string for your price range.

Posted: 11 Mar 2021 10:59 am
by Andy Volk
What kind of music do you want to play?

Normally, I'd say "You can play a whole lot of music on a 6-string. After you've played for a while an 8-string would make sense" but coming from pedal steel, you're already acclimated to many strings so it's your choice. I find there's great satisfaction with just 6 strings but 8 can be handy, depending on what you want to hear.

Posted: 11 Mar 2021 4:53 pm
by Gene Tani
good recs here, georgeboard, melbert, Rukavina, Hatcher, Asher Fouke etc (I would go 8 strings also)

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=2989525

Posted: 11 Mar 2021 8:03 pm
by Nic Neufeld
Andy Volk wrote:What kind of music do you want to play?
This is my usual reply to new folks asking similar questions...what brings you to nonpedal steel, what inspires you about it...that will help folks guide you to where you want to go.

Why

Posted: 11 Mar 2021 11:36 pm
by James Venverloh
Andy, what brought me to the lap steel was the same reason that brought me to the pedal steel a few years ago and the guitar 45 years ago. I heard the sound and the sound spoke to my soul.....and I had to do "that thing". (Don't know if that made sense to anyone, but it does to me).

Posted: 12 Mar 2021 6:09 am
by Nic Neufeld
Similar experience for a lot of us, for sure! But the reason we might pry for more detail is that there are so many different styles, ultimately, of nonpedal steel guitar...my guitar recommendations would be potentially different if you were ensorcelled by the sounds of Sol K Bright or Andy Iona...or by Megan Lovell...or by Jerry Byrd, or Joaquin Murphey, etc. There's a wide range of sounds out there!

I'd echo what the others have said...if you're already used to PSG, having an 8 string will give you more flexibility in range/tunings. You can always just string up 6 strings on it were you to want to, can't string up an extra two on a 6 string. (again though, if you had a specific style in mind, like playing in the style of David Feet Rogers or the aforementioned Meg Lovell, maybe a 6 string would be optimal, but generically speaking, I'd say go for 8 ).

Good luck!

Posted: 12 Mar 2021 7:46 am
by Erv Niehaus
I started out on a 6 string lap guitar and stuck with it for quite a while.
However, when I got into alternate tunings, like C6th, I really needed an 8 string instrument otherwise your range is really limited. :D
Erv

Posted: 12 Mar 2021 9:15 am
by Bill Hatcher
sent you an email

Posted: 14 Mar 2021 1:23 pm
by Allan Revich
If I were coming at this from pedal steel (I’m not), I think I’d go with 8 strings PLUS multibenders. A few builders here on the SGF will include them in their builds. IE, Chris Fouke.

Posted: 14 Mar 2021 2:12 pm
by Stephen Cowell
If you wanna rock, get a 6 and put some slide tunings (E/D low bass) or dobro (G high bass) on it. Supros are some of the best for this, and cheap.

If you wanna swing or standards go at least 8 with two necks, a 6 and a 13.

If you've already learned C6 pedal steel go with a 10-string C6... lot of music in that guitar.

All IMO.

Posted: 17 Mar 2021 12:21 pm
by Allan Revich
Allan Revich wrote:If I were coming at this from pedal steel (I’m not), I think I’d go with 8 strings PLUS multibenders. A few builders here on the SGF will include them in their builds. IE, Chris Fouke.
Thinking about this a bit more, I might pass on the benders, since you already have those on your pedal steel. I would go with 8 strings, and either use a tuning that you're already comfortable with on the pedal steel. or any 13th tuning.

Lap newbie help

Posted: 19 Mar 2021 8:36 am
by John Watson
Howdy. I have an 8 string Melbert and use an E9 tuning (the high 8 strings 1 -8) and lower it down a couple of tones so that I can bend behind the bar more easily. I combine with slants to get alot of pedal steel sounds. The Melbert has George Ls pickups - so more of a country tone. You can freestyle abit too by incorporating some open strings. Works for me but more as a solo fun sort of thing.