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Topic: identify this key pan |
Roy Thomas
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Louisiana, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2020 6:04 am |
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i have this key pan which will be restored and used but i am having difficulty identifying it. i am leaning towards a fender during transition years but it lacks markings that i would expect to be there.
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Jon Light (deceased)
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 9 Nov 2020 6:08 am
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I believe that is from a Fender Dual Pro or Custom (pre-Stringmaster).
edited to add -- I've looked at some pics and I'll double down on that. |
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Roy Thomas
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2020 9:58 am key pan
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thanks
what i need to do is remove the buttons and i hope they are just pressed on. i have seen threaded and thread locked ones.
interesting on how they attached the key with lead and brass bars on the underside. |
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J Fletcher
From:
London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 9 Nov 2020 10:49 am
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| Curious why you are removing the buttons ? |
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Bill Sinclair
From:
Waynesboro, PA, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2020 10:56 am
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Roy,
Those lollipop buttons would have been soldered on from the factory. To remove them you will have to heat the shaft with a soldering iron or small torch to pull the button off when the solder melts. Wear glasses or goggles, some of the solder will be airborne when it separates. Why do you need to remove them? Are you restoring the guitar that it goes on? That pan is specific to the trapezoid pickup guitars that Jon mentioned and is a rare enough part that it would have the most value on one of those guitars. You might try a search for "lollipop tuner repair" or something similar to get an idea of what is involved. |
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2020 8:25 am
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Kinda looks like a Rickenbacker D8 208 Console pan lap steel from the 50's to me.
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Newnan, GA
Too many guitars, not enough time to play
'72 Sho-Bud 6139, '71 Marlen 210
'78 Fender Stringmaster Quad black
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Tom Snook
From:
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2020 4:25 pm
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Ricks had nuts independent from the pan,faux fender?
Aloha
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David Venzke
From:
SE Michigan, USA
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Jeff Mead
From:
London, England
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Posted 12 Nov 2020 5:14 am
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| Tony Oresteen wrote: |
| Kinda looks like a Rickenbacker D8 208 Console pan lap steel from the 50's to me. |
No, Jon was right. Definitely Fender from one of the Trapezoid pickup models that predated the Stringmaster.
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2020 4:34 pm
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Ricks had nuts independent from the pan,faux fender?
Aloha |
I have two old Rick 8 pans that have nuts on them that came with my 200. Not original?
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Tony
Newnan, GA
Too many guitars, not enough time to play
'72 Sho-Bud 6139, '71 Marlen 210
'78 Fender Stringmaster Quad black
PedalMaster D8 |
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Bill Sinclair
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Waynesboro, PA, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2020 7:54 pm
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| Tony Oresteen wrote: |
| Tom Snook wrote: |
Ricks had nuts independent from the pan,faux fender?
Aloha |
I have two old Rick 8 pans that have nuts on them that came with my 200. Not original? |
Tony,
I'll bet your 200 has machined nuts that are pinned to the pan from the bottom. (See pictures below) If you look closely at Roy's pan, you can see that the nut is actually part of the folded metal in the stamping. I've only seen that on a Fender Custom - though I certainly haven't seen everything.
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2020 7:58 am
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That is definitely a Fender pan. 
Erv |
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2020 12:00 pm
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Bill, you are right. The Rick nuts are screwed to the pans, not part of them.
I had to replace my Rick 208 pans with new Kluson 8 string pans as they were so cut up they were unusable.
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Tony
Newnan, GA
Too many guitars, not enough time to play
'72 Sho-Bud 6139, '71 Marlen 210
'78 Fender Stringmaster Quad black
PedalMaster D8 |
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Roy Thomas
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 6 Mar 2021 2:04 pm fender key pan
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i found this in his plunder of parts. was it his?? he had those models shown and knowing him, probably modified the guitar.
it is too far gone to be presentable and re-chrome cost is too high.
i sand blasted and powdered coated it hammered copper vein. i am making a distressed 3 leg guitar in tobacco brown. i will be using an older fender design being the two pickup pan control. the neck is an mesa cast that was machined down and inlaid into a maple deck to get the lower stress low profile. |
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