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Dirt floor basement find , what is it ?
Posted: 27 Dec 2020 5:54 pm
by Vic Plowman
Posted: 27 Dec 2020 6:50 pm
by Lee Baucum
Dirt floor basement find , what is it ?
What do you mean, "What is it?"
It's a D-12 pedal steel guitar!
That's a cool find. I hope someone can identify the builder.
Dirt basement find
Posted: 27 Dec 2020 8:14 pm
by Vic Plowman
I know it’s a d12
I was looking for maybe a builder
Mid 50's to early 60's?
Posted: 27 Dec 2020 10:29 pm
by Andy DePaule
Mid 50's to early 60's is my best guess? No idea who might have built it.
Looks like a kind of copy of a Sho~Bud permanent, but it's not that.
Look at the inside castings to see if maybe it's a Blankenship from Amarillo?
Better close up pictures of the underside would help to make an identification.
I'd bet it would sound great if restored.
Good luck,
Andy
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 1:01 am
by Ian Rae
Those yokes on the E9 pulls are superior to many and reminiscent of Kline or ZB.
I had a D10 of this period that just had crude fishplates to split the pulls, but being pull-release it sounded great. This one could be even better, all other things being equal.
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 3:54 am
by Dan Beller-McKenna
I have no idea who built it, but those fret boards are way cool!
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 5:21 am
by Richard Sinkler
Ian Rae wrote:Those yokes on the E9 pulls are superior to many and reminiscent of Kline or ZB.
I had a D10 of this period that just had crude fishplates to split the pulls, but being pull-release it sounded great. This one could be even better, all other things being equal.
I think those yokes are on the C6 (assumed) neck. Looks like the pedals attach to the other neck, at the bottom of the pictures, which would make that the front neck. Of course, we don't really know what tunings were on the guitar, and on which neck.
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 5:49 am
by Larry Dering
Those fretboards make me think Asian design. Could it be from Fuzzy or another Japanese builder?
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 6:18 am
by Ken Byng
Some aspects of the guitar look like a Miller.
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 6:56 am
by Frank Freniere
Dan Beller-McKenna wrote:I have no idea who built it, but those fret boards are way cool!
+1
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 9:27 am
by Andrew Goulet
I'm just here to say that that is a great basement find that would probably be a sweet guitar when it's cleaned up, and that I also very much enjoy those fretboards.
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 11:19 am
by David Ball
The changer fingers are interesting--the lowers tune vertically through a tab on the finger itself instead of horizontally through some type of crossbar (and pushing against the finger) as do most pull/release guitars. That could possibly be a clue.
Dave
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 3:57 pm
by Ken Mizell
This sure is interesting. Even if the builder cannot be identified, a restoration would be warranted. That does it look like from the front? Does it have legs, pedal bar, and pedals with it?
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 5:18 pm
by Bob Muller
Ken Byng wrote:Some aspects of the guitar look like a Miller.
I am going to say definitely not a Miller! Not sure what it is, looks like some early Sho-Bud ideas but not a Bud either.
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 5:50 pm
by Ian Worley
David Ball wrote:...the lowers tune vertically through a tab on the finger itself instead of horizontally through some type of crossbar (and pushing against the finger) as do most pull/release guitars...
I was thinking those vertical screws are actually the raise stops, with conventional lower stop screws below that we aren't able see in the posted pics. I experimented with something like that once. Would be cool to see some more detail pics of the changer end.
If there are better photos
Posted: 28 Dec 2020 6:24 pm
by Andy DePaule
If there are better photos we'd be able to tell a lot of these details better.
Hope that Vic can get some close up pictures in sharp focus soon.
He sure did find a nice example of a steel from that period of time when pedal guitars were still an exciting new thing to be developed.
Posted: 29 Dec 2020 2:06 am
by Ian Rae
Andy reminds us that during that period a bunch of people joined the craze but few will have taken it beyond one or two attempts.
Not everyone who built a radio set 100 years ago became a corporation
Posted: 29 Dec 2020 2:22 am
by David Ball
Ian Worley wrote:David Ball wrote:...the lowers tune vertically through a tab on the finger itself instead of horizontally through some type of crossbar (and pushing against the finger) as do most pull/release guitars...
I was thinking those vertical screws are actually the raise stops, with conventional lower stop screws below that we aren't able see in the posted pics. I experimented with something like that once. Would be cool to see some more detail pics of the changer end.
Looking at it again, you've got to be right. I must have been thinking backwards! Very interesting at any rate.
Dave
Posted: 29 Dec 2020 6:53 am
by Dave Zirbel
I love these old mystery steels. I ran across a homemade unmarked d-10 carcass....turned out to be one of the best sounding steels I’ve had.
Keep us updated if you’re restoring this. It looks really cool.
Posted: 29 Dec 2020 10:08 am
by Steve Waltz
those four switches on the outside neck are interesting and different.
Posted: 30 Dec 2020 8:19 pm
by Bobby D. Jones
The changer is interesting. Looks like instead of holding the pedals down and tuning the raise. Then using the horizontal screws to adjust the open tuning. The open strings are tuned then the raises are tuned by the stop screws on the back of the fingers.
The fret boards are neat too, Looks like fallen stars,
Posted: 30 Dec 2020 8:50 pm
by Ian Rae
Dave Zirbel wrote:I love these old mystery steels. I ran across a homemade unmarked d-10 carcass....turned out to be one of the best sounding steels I’ve had
My first instrument was a copy of a Permanent D10. It weighed a ton but it played well and sounded great. Frustratingly, there was a rectangle of glue on the front where the maker's name had fallen off!
I never did find out who built it, but they knew what they were doing.