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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 2:53 pm
by Colin Andrews
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 3:37 pm
by Jack Hanson
Have you checked out Glenn Ross Campbell with Juicy Lucy or The Misunderstood?
Posted: 12 Dec 2020 3:53 pm
by Colin Andrews
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 3:56 pm
by scott murray
I don't know about angry but I've heard some ferocious steel. Buddy Emmons comes right to mind, especially the solo at about 1h 29m here:
https://youtu.be/iGb9XLFY6C4
Paul Franklin played on a Megadeth album or 2. I believe he's on this tune:
https://youtu.be/lPDAA83GN_A
as for dark and moody steel, there are plenty of examples... not sure where to begin. but this Johnny Paycheck/Lloyd Green cut comes to mind:
https://youtu.be/aqunV99xBfM
Posted: 12 Dec 2020 4:32 pm
by Dean Holman
Ricky Skaggs did a song called “Woman, You Won’t Take Mineâ€. Lloyd Green played some pretty mean sounding steel on it., a lot of attitude. That song is on Skaggs Coming Home To Stay album.
Posted: 12 Dec 2020 4:53 pm
by scott murray
maybe Skunk Baxter's break at the end of Steely Dan's Fire In The Hole?
https://youtu.be/9PwkU4nsJM8
Posted: 12 Dec 2020 5:18 pm
by Colin Andrews
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 5:41 pm
by Fred Treece
Hal Rugg on this Osborne Bros tune. It’s just the intro, but it is lonesome ornery and mean in a trad country style kinda way.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MYUPEcUBZyQ
Posted: 12 Dec 2020 6:53 pm
by Mike Auman
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 6:02 am
by Bill Sutton
Buddy Emmons..."The Great Stream". Sounds Vicious.
https://youtu.be/Us9HUrkycAQ
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 7:30 am
by Scott Akers
Frank Black, “At the End of Milesâ€.
https://youtu.be/zVPOi-XTBMc
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 9:18 am
by Curt Trisko
scott murray wrote:as for dark and moody steel, there are plenty of examples... not sure where to begin. but this Johnny Paycheck/Lloyd Green cut comes to mind:
https://youtu.be/aqunV99xBfM
I have never heard that one before. It definitely comes very a different place than his other songs and other songs in the genre. Here's another song of his from the same era:
https://youtu.be/ZZlZcXJtzsw. It's an angry song, but Lloyd Green's pedal steel lightens it up instead of darkening it.
The OP hits on a truth about the instrument. It really isn't suited to angry moods. I think none the posted links emote anger to any comparable extent to a lot of other instruments.
A few years ago a contributed some pedal steel phrases to an ambient music project. A couple of them had an angry/irritable/tortured feel. I think they ended up in the second half of this part of the album:
https://youtu.be/wF3ZlAQPtvs. Aside from that, I'm having a hard time thinking of examples of 'angry' steel.
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 10:02 am
by Bob Carlucci
This is a tongue in cheek video , and yes it is very angry sounding, all the while being done by a man I perceive in my mind as being quite gentle... bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNY_R3FmmBw
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 12:02 pm
by Fred Treece
That was great, Bob! Thanks for posting.
I guess I’m not sure what the OP means by “angryâ€. The song I posted is about being tired of being lonesome, and I thought the steel intro reflected that frustrated (maybe not quite pissed off) emotion perfectly, without going into the metal zone like Milo did so expertly. But what do I know. Dark and moody are fairly common in pedal steel playing, by comparison.
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 1:31 pm
by Ricky Davis
This just now in from Lloyd Green.
When I recorded “It Won’t Be Long( Til’ I’ll Be Hating You)†with Paycheck way back in the experimental period where they let me play anything I could conceive, I thought Johnny P. sounded angry on this song so I played “dementedâ€, slightly crazy!
Lloyd Green
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 1:44 pm
by Colin Andrews
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Posted: 13 Dec 2020 1:52 pm
by Colin Andrews
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Posted: 13 Dec 2020 4:38 pm
by Brooks Montgomery
The beginning of that song reminds me a lot of Zappa.
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 6:06 pm
by Kenneth Caine
Pink Floyd, One of These Days. Lots of lap steel videos on youtube. Do a search.
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 6:58 pm
by scott murray
Kenneth Caine wrote:Pink Floyd, One of These Days. Lots of lap steel videos on youtube. Do a search.
bingo.
I knew there was an obvious one I was forgetting
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 9:17 pm
by Bob Hoffnar
I frequently get calls to play angry noise type music.
Here is something I did a while back using difference tones:
https://youtu.be/yLO-Yh9QDgs
Then this sort of soloing has its place;
https://youtu.be/ynJooh88uZQ
This was a super fun session:
https://ingebrigtflaten.bandcamp.com/track/mole-2
Posted: 13 Dec 2020 9:53 pm
by Fred Treece
Bob...holy crap that is some wild stuff! That rhythmic figure on the Young Mothers tune is intoxicating. Thought the drum solo was gonna give me a heart attack! Really enjoyed all 3 cuts, and your playing on the 2nd one is exceptional, like you could have been the steel player for Sun Ra.
Posted: 14 Dec 2020 5:42 am
by Bob Hoffnar
Let’s not forget the sacred steel guys and Dan Tyack. There music isn’t about anger but is plenty aggressive.
Posted: 14 Dec 2020 6:17 am
by Mike Neer
This is about is angry and dissonant as I have recorded, so far.... This was featured on a tribute CD to Jeff Beck on a German label and is the first cut on the CD.
https://mikeneer.bandcamp.com/track/jeffs-waltz-single
Posted: 14 Dec 2020 7:17 am
by Olaf van Roggen
When I was in my teens,The New Riders of the Purple sage with Buddy Cage on "kick in the head" sounded aggressive to me.
I learned to appreciate it much later.
https://youtu.be/yz9kg_75joA