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Topic: D9th with U-12 inspired low strings |
b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2020 7:58 am |
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I'm not using this copedent, but it seems to solve the low notes problem without much fuss. The low 2 strings are set up like a U-12, and the X lever provides the low E note to match a 6-string guitar's range.
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Tom Campbell
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Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2020 11:43 am
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| Been doing that for a looong time, only in the key of E tuning. My RKR drops the 8th string E to D# (with a half-stop) on the way to D. |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 17 Sep 2020 12:32 pm
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All the recent discussion on D tunings makes me wish I'd started playing a little later than I did. The idea of lowering E9 to D9 and raising C6 to D6 to create a universal tuning is obvious (once it's pointed out) and neither shift is excessive.
As it is, I'm too far down the B6/E9 road to mash my brain trying to turn back 
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2020 12:58 pm
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In 2010, I went from a D-12 E9th & C6th (talk about rabbit holes!) to an S-8 D6th. Eventually got to an S-10. Some muscle memory needed to be undone, but it really wasn't too hard. The thrill of finding everything I needed on a much smaller system outweighed the inconvenience.
Here's a blog post about a copedent I'm toying with now. Another rabbit hole!!  I know it's strange but it works for me. https://b0b.com/wp/2020/09/extending-d9th-range-to-low-e/
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2020 1:58 pm
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Back to the U-12 inspired D9th, there are a few things I really like about it:
- The traditional A6th with strings 4 & 8 lowered (RKL) is also F#m7 with the 10th string bass note.
- The pedals down major chord includes the low root note G on the 10th string.
- The E9th chord scale on LKV has a low root note E on the 10th string.
- The A+F positions have a low 5th on the 10th string.
Things I use a lot that are missing:
- The E9th 9th string lowered to get a 4-note minor 7th chord on strings 9, 8, 6, 5.
- Gmaj7 with G on string 10 and F# on string 6
Those positions don't matter much in country, but I'm used having them there.
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 17 Sep 2020 3:25 pm
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So b0b, you swapped to D before I'd even started playing!
I would need to figure out the jazz chords I need, the equivalent of raising and lowering string 4 a half step on the C6. Maybe instead of the centre cluster I use now, I might experiment with in/out double levers.
It's all time - wouldn't it be better spent knuckling down to what I have already? Should I hire a life coach?
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Jim Pitman
From:
Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2020 4:40 pm
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Personally I don't see how all you E9 players can do without a root in the bass?
Your's truly,
U12 player who also has the 5 in the bass. |
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Dennis Montgomery
From:
Western Washington
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