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Topic: Steel Leg Slips |
joe long
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San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 13 Sep 2020 9:02 am |
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I have a leg that slip. It will not stay tight.
I see there is a metal ring that slides up a down on on the inside leg. What have done wrong? |
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Gene Tani
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Pac NW
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Posted 13 Sep 2020 9:14 am
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If you want photos i can take some but there shouldn't be any loose pieces flopping around
Take the clutch apart and clean all the pieces, I use rubbing alcohol or citrus cleaner (goof off/goo Gone etc). Also clean lower leg section where clutch grabs
then put the 2 rings of the clutch together (metal and plastic) so the beveled faces match.
You could cut a piece of 5/8" dowel or 1/2" inner diameter PVC pipe to the right length and put it in the upper leg section above the lower section so it locks it in place even if the clutch slips. Al Brisco sent me a set like this, kudos to him for the idea (I guess he's a belt and suspenders guy)
$2 for 10 feet, fix lots of legs https://www.lowes.com/pd/Charlotte-Pipe-1-2-in-dia-x-10-ft-L-315-PSI-SDR-13-5-PVC-Pipe/1000080799
[edited to correct dowel/PVC pipe description]]
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Last edited by Gene Tani on 15 Sep 2020 6:16 am; edited 3 times in total |
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joe long
From:
San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 13 Sep 2020 12:28 pm
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| Gene, I would appreciate photos. |
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Gene Tani
From:
Pac NW
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Posted 13 Sep 2020 4:59 pm
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OK, so the bronze colored metal ring and the brownish plastic ring with the cut in it are the important pieces, the metal ring's beveled edge is on top but hard to see. The red cap they put on the lower section doesn't seem to do anything
This plastic ring doesn't have bevels on the edge some do, you put that into the threaded sleeve first and then the metal ring with beveled edge towards the plastic ring, screw it on and put the lower section thru.
I've probably taken apart 10 sets of legs. Always do this when you get new steel. A lot of them had white grease on the threads which spread everywhere, i fyou want you can put a really small amount of Teflon lube on the threads, it helps.
The other thing you could do is to measure how much longer you want the leg to be than when it's folded up short and get 2 pieces of longer steel or aluminum tubing for the lower leg at onlinemetals.com or metalsupermarket or whatever local places you have but PVC pipe is a lot easier/cheaper.
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- keyless Sonny Jenkins laps stay in tune forever!; Carter PSG
- The secret sauce: polyester sweatpants to buff your picks, cheapo Presonus channel strip for preamp/EQ/compress/limiter, Diet Mountain Dew
Last edited by Gene Tani on 15 Sep 2020 6:06 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Gene Tani
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Pac NW
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Posted 13 Sep 2020 5:18 pm
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The metal ring sliding up and down is a spacer that sits above the pedal bar on the front legs and keep everything in place.
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- keyless Sonny Jenkins laps stay in tune forever!; Carter PSG
- The secret sauce: polyester sweatpants to buff your picks, cheapo Presonus channel strip for preamp/EQ/compress/limiter, Diet Mountain Dew |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Sep 2020 3:33 am
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| The red cap doesn't belong! Clean the three other parts in acetone or alcohol, and then reassemble properly! Most all the ones I've seen that won't work right have just been assembled wrong. The cone-edge (beveled edge) of the jam washer must be against the split ring! (The flat side of the beveled washer goes against the threaded end of the leg.) |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 14 Sep 2020 4:10 am
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| The plastic cap (Red in picture) was on the legs on my 82 Franklin and is included in the Atlas clutch repair kit. |
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2020 7:50 am
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| I have had decent results by taking a rat-tailed file to the inside of the fiber clutch, increasing the gap in it by cutting out a small section, and cleaning everything. |
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joe long
From:
San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 14 Sep 2020 9:48 am
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| Thanks Jack Stoner it was exactly what I was looking for. I just ordered mine. |
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Tucker Jackson
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2020 12:07 pm
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| Gene Tani wrote: |
| This plastic ring..., you put that into the threaded sleeve first... |
| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| The cone-edge (beveled edge) of the jam washer must be against the split ring! (The flat side of the beveled washer goes against the threaded end of the leg. |
Do we have conflicting advice here? Gene says the plastic ring goes into the sleeve first, Donny says the copper washer goes in first.
Am I reading that correctly? |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2020 12:43 pm
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Legs are too slippery.
Easy to fix:
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Sep 2020 1:39 pm
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| Tucker Jackson wrote: |
| Gene Tani wrote: |
| This plastic ring..., you put that into the threaded sleeve first... |
| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| The cone-edge (beveled edge) of the jam washer must be against the split ring! (The flat side of the beveled washer goes against the threaded end of the leg. |
Do we have conflicting advice here? Gene says the plastic ring goes into the sleeve first, Donny says the copper washer goes in first.
Am I reading that correctly? |
No, you're not reading it correctly.  |
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Nicholas Cox
From:
CA
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Posted 14 Sep 2020 2:54 pm
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| Earnest Bovine wrote: |
Legs are too slippery.
Easy to fix:
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Yikes |
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