One or many lap steels?

Lap steels, resonators, multi-neck consoles and acoustic steel guitars

Moderator: Brad Bechtel

User avatar
Ryan Lunenfeld
Posts: 265
Joined: 18 Aug 2020 12:57 pm
Location: Colorado, USA

One or many lap steels?

Post by Ryan Lunenfeld »

Question for you all...

One or many lap steels?

Do you have one electric you love to death and use consistently, or multiple?

I ask because I recently started playing, but got the bug after researching, picked up 2 hawaiians, a 185 and an a22.

I love the a22, it's my go to. Not quite using the Hawaiians that much anymore because of this, and the 185 provides a different tonality I can't quite get with the a22.

Not sure having 4 electrics is overkill? I was thinking consolidating, and keeping the a22 around and trying to sell the other 3 to pick up a non electrified lap.

How do you all feel on this?

I don't really want to be a collector, and rather a practice, practice, enjoy, and play.

Nothing wrong with being a collector it keeps some of our greats in shape!

In addition to being a relatively new player, is it better to focus on one instrument and learn all it's intricacies before trying to use multiple?

Sorry for a possible super newb question! I'd appreciate any input!
Bill McCloskey
Posts: 6877
Joined: 5 Jan 2005 1:01 am
Location: Nanuet, NY
Contact:

Post by Bill McCloskey »

I currently own four single necks, two double necks, one triple neck and 3 dobros. They all get played. So, more . Consider this. We can’t walk into a store and play a bunch of lap steels. So the only way to see what is out there is too play a bunch of them and sell the ones you don’t like
User avatar
Ryan Lunenfeld
Posts: 265
Joined: 18 Aug 2020 12:57 pm
Location: Colorado, USA

Post by Ryan Lunenfeld »

Bill McCloskey wrote:I currently own four single necks, two double necks, one triple neck and 3 dobros. They all get played. So, more . Consider this. We can’t walk into a store and play a bunch of lap steels. So the only way to see what is our there is too play a bunch of them and sell the ones you don’t like
That's my thoughts exactly when I picked these fine instruments up. I went to the local guitar shop around Denver, and more often than not I get a weird face from the shop employees when I ask about lap steels... :lol:
User avatar
Rick Barnhart
Posts: 3046
Joined: 23 May 2008 2:21 pm
Location: Arizona, USA

Post by Rick Barnhart »

How many guitars does one person need? Just one more.
Clinesmith consoles D-8/6 5 pedal, D-8 3 pedal & A25 Frypan, Pettingill Teardrop, & P8 Deluxe.
User avatar
b0b
Posts: 29108
Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
Location: Cloverdale, CA, USA
Contact:

Post by b0b »

I try to justify each instrument with a reason. I have 3:
  1. A lightweight 6-string lap for jams in my preferred tuning.
  2. A separate 6-string lap tuned standard C6th for teaching.
  3. A heavy 8-string stand-up for recording or gigs in my preferred tuning
-𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video
Greg Forsyth
Posts: 328
Joined: 3 Apr 2020 1:05 pm
Location: Colorado, USA

Post by Greg Forsyth »

Having numerous lap steels means you can have them tuned to several tunings, and play songs that are in those tunings. Also guitars sound different from each other and can shine in a tuning where others tuned to that tuning are dull.
User avatar
Don Kona Woods
Posts: 2726
Joined: 11 Dec 2004 1:01 am
Location: Hawaiian Kama'aina

Post by Don Kona Woods »

I have had 9 steel guitars and I loved each one of them because of the variations in tone. Each steel guitar with a different tone made it more interesting. I was never a one steel guitar man.

Last year, I sold 7 of these vintage steel guitars because of my aging and because my wife did not want to have them as a legacy. :lol:
User avatar
Eric Dahlhoff
Posts: 836
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 1:04 pm
Location: Point Arena, California

Post by Eric Dahlhoff »

Rick Barnhart wrote: Just one more.
:lol:
As long as they all get played!!
"To live outside the law you must be honest." (Bob Dylan)
User avatar
Ryan Lunenfeld
Posts: 265
Joined: 18 Aug 2020 12:57 pm
Location: Colorado, USA

Post by Ryan Lunenfeld »

Makes sense!

I was going to consolidate...but I think you all convinced me to keep em! Iv'e had a hard time thinking about letting them go...talk about quick attachment!
User avatar
Joe Elk
Posts: 662
Joined: 4 Nov 2013 8:41 am
Location: Ohio, USA

Post by Joe Elk »

I totally with Rick Just one More!!!!!!
Joe Elk
User avatar
Frank James Pracher
Posts: 601
Joined: 8 Nov 2010 7:51 am
Location: Michigan, USA

Post by Frank James Pracher »

I have around 20 lap steels, so that puts me firmly in the collector category... I certainly don't need that many, I just enjoying have a variety to play. They all have different qualities.
Some people are totally happy with one or two instruments... I've always envied those people.
"Don't be mad honey, but I bought another one"
User avatar
Doug Beaumier
Posts: 15642
Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
Location: Northampton, MA
Contact:

Post by Doug Beaumier »

I've bought and sold many over the years, but I currently have two 6-string lap steels, one 8-string, one D-8, and one pedal steel guitar.
User avatar
Marty Broussard
Posts: 2378
Joined: 18 Oct 2002 12:01 am
Location: Broussard, Louisiana, USA

Post by Marty Broussard »

I just added 2 new 8 string Adams resonators to my herd. Now I have 4 resonators, 1 Gold Tone Weissenborn, a 10 string lap for practicing on the bus, and a Marrs "Cat Can".

They all have a purpose----to enjoy. :D

(I don't own golf clubs or fishing rods/boats so my wife gives me a pass.)
"Technique is really the elimination of the unnecessary..it is a constant effort to avoid any personal impediment or obstacle to achieve the smooth flow of energy and intent" Yehudi Menuhin
User avatar
Bill Groner
Posts: 1234
Joined: 30 Dec 2016 8:42 am
Location: QUAKERTOWN, PA

Post by Bill Groner »

You may wish you had a boat soon. I hope you ride out the storm and stay safe!
Currently own, 6 Groner-tone lap steels, one 1953 Alamo Lap steel, Roland Cube, Fender Champion 40
User avatar
Jim Graham
Posts: 59
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 10:52 am
Location: Ontario, Canada

Post by Jim Graham »

I've got five now, 3 of which are in different tunings. I tell myself I won't buy anymore until I know my way around all three tunings.....
User avatar
Jack Hanson
Posts: 5024
Joined: 19 Jun 2012 3:42 pm
Location: San Luis Valley, USA

Post by Jack Hanson »

Lap steels are like Lay's potato chips; you can't have just one.

Most of mine are rescues (purchased as carcasses or basket cases and brought back into playing condition). Often times I have more $$$ into 'em than I could possibly expect to recoup on a sale, so I just end up keeping 'em. Here are a couple of recent examples:

Image
Image
Image
Greg Forsyth
Posts: 328
Joined: 3 Apr 2020 1:05 pm
Location: Colorado, USA

Post by Greg Forsyth »

Hi Jack,
I recognize one as a Gibson. What brand is your other lap steel?
Last edited by Greg Forsyth on 24 Aug 2020 8:49 am, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Dom Franco
Posts: 1985
Joined: 16 Oct 1998 12:01 am
Location: Beaverton, OR, 97007
Contact:

Post by Dom Franco »

I have two resonators, two 13 string lapsteels, A few more in various stages of construction and I have a little 6 string I bought it Hawaii at my wife's urging... I have to keep that one!
Bill McCloskey
Posts: 6877
Joined: 5 Jan 2005 1:01 am
Location: Nanuet, NY
Contact:

Post by Bill McCloskey »

“ Often times I have more $$$ into 'em than I could possibly expect to recoup on a sale‘

Think of it this way, it is the same with a car. But a lot more fun. And every instrument has its unique characteristics. It isn’t one size hits all. I play the Alkire tuning. Some steels sound great with that tuning, some don’t. Considering the simple multitude of options: tuning, strings, scale length, pickup, body type and material... and considering the relative low cost especially if you sell it, but even if you don’t : it is a crime not to have more than one. You can’t really begin to know the differences and capabilities until you’ve played a lot of them. Over the last 20 years, I have bought and sold more than 50. Cheapest and most beloved joy on the planet. There is no other thing that will give you more joy at such a cheap cost. I have put money in to guitars and then flipped them at a loss just for the joy of restoring an instrument for the next guy.
User avatar
Jack Hanson
Posts: 5024
Joined: 19 Jun 2012 3:42 pm
Location: San Luis Valley, USA

Post by Jack Hanson »

Greg Forsyth wrote:Hi Jack,
I recognize one as a Gibson. What brand is your other lap steel?
They're both Gibsons. The one on top is an early model BR-9 that appears to have originally been fitted with the wide-oval/racetrack pickup. The other is a '54 Ultratone that I converted from a 6-string to a 7-string. Neither are museum pieces, but both of 'em play and sound just great.
Steven Paris
Posts: 914
Joined: 4 Nov 2012 8:49 am
Location: Los Angeles

Post by Steven Paris »

Doug Beaumier wrote:I've bought and sold many over the years, but I currently have two 6-string lap steels, one 8-string, one D-8, and one pedal steel guitar.
Doug, what brands are your steels? You sure do make 'em sound good!
Emmons & Peavey
User avatar
Nic Neufeld
Posts: 1319
Joined: 25 Sep 2017 8:10 am
Location: Kansas City, Missouri

Post by Nic Neufeld »

I can -kinda- justify all of mine. I do know its a bit excessive.

My main guitar is a Clinesmith 8 string frypan. Beautiful guitar. Serial no 24.

Then I have two consoles...a Magnatone D8, which is sort of my secondary guitar (used to be primary), handy for gigs when I want to play B11 songs without a retuning interval. My first proper steel guitar (Stringmaster T8 ) also, and if I were being unsentimental I'd sell it off, as I prefer the tone on the Mag, but I'd have a hard time turning loose of it.

I also bought a S8 SX beater guitar. Really handy for just laying around the downstairs, or for travel. Basically a practice guitar but with a replaced Alumitone pickup, it sounds pretty darn good.

Then I have two acoustics...a Republic tricone tuned in C6 for Barney Isaacs style Hawaiian and a Regal squareneck dobro I bought to try my hand at that style in open G.

Oh, can't forget the Fender 400...sort of intended for me to someday properly learn how to play pedal with Basil Henriques A7 copedent.

Yeah, that's probably too many. I'd say I definitely "have enough" now, but as a student of Hindustani classical music, the various slide based veenas are interesting to me too. I may have to shift some unused guitars just to have space...
Waikīkī, at night when the shadows are falling
I hear the rolling surf calling
Calling and calling to me
User avatar
Peter Jacobs
Posts: 982
Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
Location: Northern Virginia

Post by Peter Jacobs »

I only have three now - I returned the 8 string Emmons my friend sold me years ago for $50 -- he had zero steels, and that seemed like a crime against nature.

I still have three 6-strings: a Melobar LS, which is my experimenting platform, a 1964 Supro Jet Airliner with legs (amazing tone and great for when my shoulders are bothering me), and my blue StrapSteel, which is my main performing steel. They all sound different, which is a good thing.
User avatar
Ian Rae
Posts: 5826
Joined: 10 Oct 2013 11:49 am
Location: Redditch, England
Contact:

Post by Ian Rae »

This thread could be about any instrument, not just lap steels. Few serious musicians seem to have less than three of anything.
Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs
User avatar
Nic Neufeld
Posts: 1319
Joined: 25 Sep 2017 8:10 am
Location: Kansas City, Missouri

Post by Nic Neufeld »

Ian Rae wrote:Few serious musicians seem to have less than three of anything.
This is why I didn't become a pipe organist! Where are you gonna fit three of those? :)
Waikīkī, at night when the shadows are falling
I hear the rolling surf calling
Calling and calling to me
Post Reply