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Topic: Pedals/levers that pull on both necks |
Nathan Delacretaz
From: Austin, Texas, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2006 1:38 pm
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(Kinda borrowing from Scott's topic here...)
My GFI has 8&5. Can't see adding a bunch of levers right now, but would like to experiment with 1 or 2 additional pulls on the C6 neck.... What are the rules of thumb as far as having a pedal/lever that pulls strings on both necks? [This message was edited by Nathan Delacretaz on 28 November 2006 at 01:40 PM.] |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 28 Nov 2006 1:50 pm
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None really, but more pulls = more pressure required. You eventually reach a point (even with "helper springs") that pedals become uncomfortably stiff. I have several pedals that pull 4 strings. I also tried 5 or 6, but it just didn't feel right. |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 28 Nov 2006 1:57 pm
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I have two knee levers on my Franklin (RKR and RKL) that "pull" 3 strings on the E9th and one on the C6th. Not a problem and not stiff. I don't know what would happen if another string were added. |
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 28 Nov 2006 6:17 pm
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The Sho-Bud Crossover models pull on both necks. They do that by having an engaging mechanism which disengages the pedals from one neck and engage the others. Check out Crossover in the database, and you'll come up with hours and hours of reading.... |
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Nathan Delacretaz
From: Austin, Texas, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2006 6:06 am
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Thanks for the input, guys. I had heard that tension/pressure was the main factor -- just wondering if there were any unwritten rules out there as far as number of strings, string gauges, etc...
Alan, I understand some of what a crossover does (Ricky Davis showed me a couple years ago when he had the blue Fulawka), but it doesn't seem like the kind of thing I could easily implement in my GFI. I'm looking at completely shared pulls...but thanks! |
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Roger Edgington
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2006 6:50 am
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I have a 98 Zum with pedal 4 working both necks(3 pulls),RKL works both(3 pulls) and RKR works both necks(4 pulls). They all work very nicly with no extra springs. |
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Robbie Daniels
From: Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2006 8:05 am
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I have a D12 MSA built for me in 1974 with nine floor pedals and five knee levers. All of the knee levers pulled on both necks and I have never had a problem with that setup.
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Carter D12, MSA D12, MSA S12, 1956 Rickenbacker D8, Evans FET 500LV, Evans SE200
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2006 8:12 am
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If you have ever watched Herby Wallace play, he has separate right knee levers for the two necks. I'm sure it's to ease the pressure required to active the changes. I have a Williams and a Rains with separate right knee levers for each neck. But as stated above the Fulawka has a couple of little knobs on the back of the guitar that are pulled out, or pushed in, depending on which neck you are playing, to activate the knee levers.
If you are really into the C6th neck, the best setup is a separate set of knee levers located at the center of your guitar, more accessible when playing the C6th foot pedals. Most of my D-10s are set up with 8 knee levers and the above mentioned Williams and Rains have 10 knee levers. |
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