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Topic: What could cause this? |
Pat Irvin
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Kansas City, Missouri, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2006 6:39 am |
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I have a friend with a Zumsteel who broke the 3rd string. He didn't have another string to replace it with so he kept playing for some time with no 3rd string. Now he's hooked a new string on and when he hits the B pedal nothing happens to the third string. The sixth string still raises but the 3rd doesn't. I haven't seen the steel in person so I can't say what may have happened. But does anyone have any suggestions on what I should tell him to look for or what he should check? Thanks
[This message was edited by Pat Irvin on 26 September 2006 at 07:41 AM.] |
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Sonny Priddy
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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 26 Sep 2006 6:57 am
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Has The End Of The Broke String Got Down In The Changer? SONNY.
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2006 6:59 am
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Chances are the pull rod popped out of the bellcrank for that striang.  |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2006 7:49 am
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Erv has the obvious idea but if that is not the case it sounds to me that the string finger could have jumped behind the finger that activates it. He can tell by looking behind the changer and see if the roller that the string is attached to has rotated counterclockwise, bottom end kicked out of position in the changer. He would need to loosen the string, probably detach the lower return spring and push the pivot point back far enough to allow the string finger to be moved forward in front of the part of the finger changer finger that activates it then put the spring back on and tune the string.
Jerry[This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 26 September 2006 at 08:51 AM.] |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 26 Sep 2006 6:13 pm
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| i'm curious now ...i thought what erv thought, so i'll be looking to see what the problem was. |
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Pat Irvin
From:
Kansas City, Missouri, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2006 7:44 pm
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| I've passed on the info via the phone to my friend. I'll try to talk with him later this week and see if that was the problem. Thanks again for all your help. I'm always amazed at the timely and good advice you can get from the forum. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 27 Sep 2006 2:17 am
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| Pat, since your in KC I'm surprised you didn't call Harrisonville and talk to Bruce. |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2006 5:12 am
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| Erv, I'm curious. I've never gotten a look at a Zum undercarriage. How would it be possible for a pull rod to pop out of the bell crank? Are the bell cranks similar to the ones used by Fessenden (I think of them as "comb" style) where the pull rods go into slots instead of holes? |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 27 Sep 2006 7:40 am
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| Brint, yes, the old Zum bellcranks were center-pull combs. The new ones are side-pull with holes. |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2006 8:08 am
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David is right.
I just acquired an '80s Zum and the pull rod has a little pin in the end and it just slips into a slot in the bellcrank. Some of the pull rods on the guitar have an Emmons allen screw collar on them by the bellcrank to help hold it in place. |
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Pat Irvin
From:
Kansas City, Missouri, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2006 8:37 am
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It is a newer Zum. I've yet to find out what the problem was but I'll let you know as soon as I talk with him.
Jack, I figure if I just ask on the forum I'll get some good suggestions. I'll leave Bruce to building guitars. If I found out is was something that wasn't "user" error or if it was major. Then I'd stop in and ask Bruce for guidance.
thanks everyone
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Pat Irvin
From:
Kansas City, Missouri, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2006 9:31 pm
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| Jerry you win!!! That was it and your post helped us solve the problem. Thanks so much everyone for your help. [This message was edited by Pat Irvin on 28 September 2006 at 08:44 AM.] |
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