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Tips for the Speedy West Jimmy Bryant Tone Knob Hammer On(?)

Posted: 24 Dec 2019 4:09 pm
by Regan Branch
This is something I first saw done in Buddy Merrill’s performance of “South” on the variety show, but now I see where he got it from… give “Railroadin’” by Speedy West a listen and he does it early on. My god he does it fast. I don’t know how to play that fast how does he not have carpal tunnel? Why did I just hear of him today who knows… had to tell my dad who he was and he opened for Hank… I’ve heard about the history of country my whole life but he missed out on Speedy West. Practice practice practice?

Posted: 24 Dec 2019 4:19 pm
by Skip Edwards
Very cool...
I remember hearing somewhere that Speedy West replaced the tone pot on his gtr with a doorbell switch... for those really fast tone shutters he did.

Posted: 24 Dec 2019 7:37 pm
by Don Ricketson
Regan I think he DID develop carpal tunnel. I met him in about '87 in St Louis and he couldn't play anymore. His hand was in a cast.

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 6:29 am
by Regan Branch
Hahahaha you get what u pay for. And get payed for what you get... I guess.

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 6:53 am
by Jack Hanson
Skip Edwards wrote:I remember hearing somewhere that Speedy West replaced the tone pot on his gtr with a doorbell switch... for those really fast tone shutters he did.
Many of the postwar Gibson consoles and pedal steels had a stutter button (in addition to the booh-wah button) that were basically doorbell switches.

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 7:53 am
by John Herb
Demonstration of Speedys stutter switch on Speedys Bigsby..

https://youtu.be/PjvEo5b8dXo

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 10:19 am
by Regan Branch
Man.... anybody know a way I can install this kind of thing on my non pedal steel?

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 10:24 am
by Howard Parker
The typical stutter box plugs into the guitar's output jack. Cable plugs into the stutter box.

Works on any guitar.

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Posted: 25 Dec 2019 12:17 pm
by Regan Branch
I don’t think we’re on the same page. I don’t think speedy west used a stutter, it appears he just slams the bar down while turning the tone knob at the same time...

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 2:57 pm
by Larry Dering
Speedy said he held his bar arm clenched tight and kind of shook at the hand. Herby Wallace took lessons from Speedy and said something similar. I never got to see him play at St. Louis because he had his hand in a special glove by the time I was attending the shows.

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 3:05 pm
by Howard Parker
Speedy could..

I can't, hence the stutter box.

Rather that then hurt myself. 8)

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 4:43 pm
by scott murray
I think this is from the Stratosphere Boogie liner notes:
In 1981 Speedy West had a debilitating stroke. At first he was partially paralyzed, but brain surgery helped him regain use of his arms and legs. But it couldn’t help him play steel guitar. The stroke also left him with the feeling of extreme cold on the right half of his body. He still wears long underwear, even in the summer, and a brown glove on his right hand.

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 5:08 pm
by Regan Branch
Damn, that sucks, I don’t wanna get old :c

Posted: 25 Dec 2019 6:04 pm
by John Herb
That stroke may have stopped Speedy from playing but it didn't stop his love and support for the steel guitar.

Posted: 26 Dec 2019 10:15 am
by Jerry Overstreet
Fredrick Herb wrote:Demonstration of Speedys stutter switch on Speedys Bigsby..

https://youtu.be/PjvEo5b8dXo
Slightly off topic, excuse please, but what tuning is Wakefield using on Speedy's Bigsby here?

Posted: 26 Dec 2019 9:56 pm
by Jim Fogarty
As simple as it gets.

I bought a "stutter" box (also called a "kill switch:) off Reverb for maybe $20. I'm sure you could put one together for $5.

Guitar ----> Box----->Amp. I velcro mine to the bottom of the guitar, where the finish was already funky.

https://www.facebook.com/jimfog/videos/ ... 605411300/


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Posted: 27 Dec 2019 6:20 pm
by Donny Hinson
The "stutter switch" was standard on the later Multi-Chord guitars. I guess they got the idea to make it easier for steelers to make a similar effect (like Speedy's bar slams). All the switch does is short out the pickup; it's not exactly the same sound as doing the bar slams, and it also doesn't affect the tone. But...it's close enough for those who can't master the technique.

Posted: 28 Dec 2019 6:21 am
by Regan Branch
I ordered a custom black delrin 6.5 oz tone bar. I noticed speedy uses black bars. They're light. Maybe that will help me. I don't wanna fake it.

https://youtu.be/OHbbcyIJc5g

Posted: 28 Dec 2019 2:27 pm
by John Herb
In regards to the tunings this should tell it all.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2019 3:59 pm
by Jerry Overstreet
Thanks Fredrick.