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Excel Steels
Posted: 19 Dec 2019 6:34 am
by George Crickmore
Does anyone know how or who to contact about ordering a new Excel?
I know the guy that builds them does not speak english. I have sent him
emails with no reply. Any help would be great.
Thanks
George
Posted: 19 Dec 2019 6:39 am
by Stu Schulman
George,I'm pretty sure Bill Stafford is the guy,He's in Gulfport Miss.He's on the forum somewhere.
Posted: 19 Dec 2019 6:46 am
by George Crickmore
Stu Schulman wrote:George,I'm pretty sure Bill Stafford is the guy,He's in Gulfport Miss.He's on the forum somewhere.
Thanks Stu. I will give him a try.
Posted: 19 Dec 2019 7:48 am
by Bill Ferguson
Bill Stafford is the man. If you need contact info, drop me a message.
Posted: 19 Dec 2019 8:55 am
by Pete Burak
I also recently emailed Mitsuo with no reply. I hope he is just on vacation or something.
Steve Cummings is a USA contact for Excel, also.
new Excels
Posted: 19 Dec 2019 12:10 pm
by Billy Carr
Steel Guitars Nashville usually has some new Excels in stock w/pics.
Posted: 19 Dec 2019 12:23 pm
by K Maul
I emailed Matsuo directly last year when I ordered mine, with no US go-between. It took him a while to respond so keep trying. Our dealings were fairly smooth but not instantaneous. Payment was done with wire transfer from my bank, no PayPal or credit card. It was worth it because they are really impressive instruments on all levels.
Posted: 19 Dec 2019 1:22 pm
by scott murray
I emailed the company a week or 2 ago and received a reply within 24 hours. keep trying!
Posted: 20 Dec 2019 12:19 pm
by Larry Allen
I also emailed Mitsuo to order another Excel...response took 2 days, the build took 1 month, shipping took 5 days....I’ve also had good luck contacting him for parts on a couple rebuilds...
Email for excel
Posted: 22 Dec 2019 7:49 am
by David Munson
Posted: 22 Dec 2019 2:50 pm
by Johnie King
Steel guitar Nashville store might be a good source for a new Excel I’ve seen as many as four for sale on the floor ready to sell.
Posted: 22 Dec 2019 7:25 pm
by Paul Strojan
On the Fuzzy website, there are a couple of pictures of laps steels with levers on them. Does anyone have any experience with them.
Posted: 23 Dec 2019 5:32 am
by Greg Cutshaw
Mitsuo always answers my emails when I need to order parts. Usually I get an answer within 3 days. The Excel guitars are super light, very compact, have very light cases and extremely positive pedal stops. Also the pedals have constant tension throughout their entire travel. These guitars are worth the wait if you have to order them and Mitsuo just like Bill at Williams guitars will deliver on time.
http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Excel%2012%2 ... yless.html
Posted: 23 Dec 2019 5:58 am
by George Crickmore
Greg Cutshaw wrote:Mitsuo always answers my emails when I need to order parts. Usually I get an answer within 3 days. The Excel guitars are super light, very compact, have very light cases and extremely positive pedal stops. Also the pedals have constant tension throughout their entire travel. These guitars are worth the wait if you have to order them and Mitsuo just like Bill at Williams guitars will deliver on time.
http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Excel%2012%2 ... yless.html
I head from him yesterday. Looks like I may be ordering a new Excel.
Posted: 23 Dec 2019 7:27 am
by Ian Rae
Like Greg, I have an Excel and a Williams. Nothing to choose on quality, price or customer service.
New tuning at changer?
Posted: 23 Dec 2019 8:39 am
by David Munson
I have a older model Excel S12 25.5 scale and have always had problems with tuning 3rd string G#. If I over tighten the set screw the 12 ga. string breaks and if I under tighten the string slips and I run out of adjustment.
How do you guys like the latest tuning adjustment from both ends ??????
Posted: 23 Dec 2019 9:09 am
by Pete Burak
Excel currently uses a Wrap-around-a-post method of securing the non-ball end of the string. It takes longer to settle in to a stable pitch than my Sierra, which locks the string down with a screw, and is almost immediately stable (stays at pitch within a few minutes of changing the string).
I tune to Bb6/Eb9 and am using a 12 gauge string. I don't have a string breakage issue, but I went through several high G#'s when it was E9/B6.
Posted: 23 Dec 2019 2:26 pm
by Ian Rae
My Excel is 25½" scale and Mitsuo himself said he didn't like putting that string on! It is pretty much at the limit. I haven't had to change it yet but it's beginning to sound tinny so the time is getting near! I have the new system that Pete describes. I shall follow received wisdom and crank it up in small steps.
It's an 0.011" by the way.
Posted: 23 Dec 2019 4:40 pm
by Larry Allen
I have 3 Excels Ext E9 with a .012 for G#....so far never a break..
Excel
Posted: 29 Dec 2019 7:31 pm
by Doug Hall
Mitsuo and I are longtime friends. I'm in touch with him regularly, and see him once or twice a year. I will be happy to help, if anyone has trouble reaching him. Doug Hall, 651-442-1515, Athens, AL
I believe his main sales and tech rep is Steve Sanford, in Mississippi.
Posted: 30 Dec 2019 2:17 am
by Ian Rae
The Excel changer designs do seem to have changed many times over the years. I believe this may be to do with the Japanese way of thinking. The American and European instinct is to keep refining what we have, but the Japanese are more likely to throw a thing out and start over in their quest for perfection. Almost right = totally wrong. Just my impression.
Posted: 1 Jan 2020 1:02 pm
by John McClung
Ian Rae wrote:The Excel changer designs do seem to have changed many times over the years. I believe this may be to do with the Japanese way of thinking. The American and European instinct is to keep refining what we have, but the Japanese are more likely to throw a thing out and start over in their quest for perfection. Almost right = totally wrong. Just my impression.
Does the current Excel Superb changer slide the changer back and forth to raise/lower pitch? Seemed to recall that was one of its chief innovations years ago.
Can someone explain all the changer holes to me? They're currently 7R/5L, correct? Are they fairly easy to work on?
Love to see detailed undercarriage pix!
Posted: 2 Jan 2020 8:00 am
by Ian Rae
My Excel is 2 years old now and the changer appears to have a conventional axle. It has 7 raises and 4 lowers and they run in order from the axle
R R L R R R R L L L R
to give a variety of leverages.
I would say that these guitars are as easy to work on as any. The hardware is all metric of course, except for the leg sockets which are ½", but instead of 13 tpi they have 12 (the old British Whitworth standard).
I'll do some pics when I have some good light to take them in!
Posted: 2 Jan 2020 8:27 am
by Ross Shafer
These changers all use the same dual pivot (I call it virtual pivot) concept. As does an old Rickenbacker and the new Sierra. No actual linear action, but much larger bending radii than other changer designs. The fender uses dual knife edges as pivots.
Excel Changer function:
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=154891
Anapeg Changer Function:
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtop ... c6cf67aa41
Fender PS210:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AaVt4gE1A8
Happy Hot dang New Year!
Posted: 2 Jan 2020 10:30 am
by John McClung
Thanks for the info, Ross!
Anyone have a changer scissor finger assembly they can loan or sell me, I need some hands on time to finally truly understand how raises & lowers work, fulcrum points, leverages, all that geeky stuff. I'll keep studying diagrams that have been posted online nonetheless. Getting dim in my golden years!