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Does anyone know where I can get the old temper tuning chart? The one for E9 has E's at 440, B's at 439.5, etc. I'd like a copy, and the old C6 too, if it's available.

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Marrs D-10, Webb 6-14E, Peavey NV112, Hilton volume.

Off the top of my head...
F# - 4.40
Eb - 4.385
G# - 4.365
E - 4.40
B - 4.395
G# - 4.365
F# - 4.38
E - 4.40
D - 4.39
B - 4.395.
Sorry I don't remember the number for the pedals and kl's.
JE:-)>

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<font face="monospace" size="3"><pre> F G Eb A B C X (Bb) D/C#
1 F# 441.5 441.5
2 D# 439 439/438.5
3 G# 439 441
4 E 442.5 435.5 440.5 439.5
5 B 442 438.5 438.5 442.5
6 G# 439 441
7 F# 441.5 441.5
8 E 442.5 435.5 440.5
9 D 441.5
10 B 442 438.5 442.5
</pre></font>

Dave's chart is the new one with the ref at 442.5. But, just subtract 2.5Hz from everything on the chart and you have it referenced at 440.

Mike, I have that old chart but it is pretty worn and beat up however most all of it is readable. If you send me your address I will mail you a copy.
Jerry<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 17 July 2006 at 03:49 PM.]</p></FONT>

Jack's right. Also, if you look at the difference between the Es and the As on the B pedal, it looks like the chart anticipates a small amount of cabinet drop. A guitar with more or less cabinet drop may need different numbers. I think it is better to use your own ears to find the best chart for your own guitar.

Well, I've always used the old E at 440, B 439.5, etc. I'm too chicken to tune the E's to 442. The old way has always worked for me. And I've got the open strings memorized, but would like the pedals, though I do pretty well by ear. I do have the C6 chart where the C's are at 442.5. I will try that in my continuing slow C6 education.

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Marrs D-10, Webb 6-14E, Peavey NV112, Hilton volume.

Jeff's chart looks very similar to what I get by ear. I'm not sure where the 0.5 Hz stuff came from. I can't see a gradation that small on my meter, and I can't tune that precisely with my tuning keys. One thing I see is that I would want my D sharper than he has it. I tune it as the minor 3rd of the B minor chord made on the open strings B D F# B. For Just Intonation (JI), a minor third wants to be about 16 cents (about 4 Hz) sharp of equal temper (ET). If you tune the D to that chord by ear, that's about what you will get. That also works for the D as the minor 7th of the E chord, because the minor 7th also wants to be about 16 cents (about 4 Hz) sharp of equal temper. That also goes for the 2nd string D on the lever.

I drop everything 2 hertz,the "E"s are at 440.5,and the F#,1st,and 7th,are at 440.

I have a lot of Jeff's older teaching material and the tuning charts on the front or rear cover have the E's at 440.

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Mullen, Royal Precision, D10, Peavey Nashville 112, DD3, Peavey Session 2000, Goodrich L120 VP.

You can find Jeff's tuning chart on his website www.jeffran.com

Michael,

The chart Jeff originally used is in the front of Scotty's book "Anthology of Pedal Steel". Page 10.

I would scan it and post it here but I am not sure if that would be cool with Scotty.

The B's are actually 439.5.

The book is still out there, I got one for my Grandson from Billy Cooper about six months ago or so.

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John Drury
NTSGA #3

I always worked in cents. Here's my chart from about 1980. I think it's the same as Jeff Newman's.

F# - 2b G - 1/2b
D# - 3 1/2b D - 1b C# - 2b
G# - 3 1/2b A - 1 1/2b G - 2b
E - 0 F# - 3b F - 7b Eb - 2b
B - 1/2b C# - 4b
G# - 3 1/2b A - 1 1/2b G - 0
F# - 2b G - 2b
E - 0 F - 7b Eb - 2b
D - 1b
B - 1/2b C# - 4b

John Dury, Does your APG book have a cassette tape,or a CD? I still have mine,and for the sake of having a clean recording,I'd like to get the CD if I can.

I tune 4 strings 442.


The old tuning chart where the E's are 440, are guys tuning with your pedals down to E 440?

FWIW, I have posted a scan of a Newman E9/B6 chart from 1998 here:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... 52#1973652