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Topic: don't know how to tune pedals on a 8 string pedal steel. |
Guy Guerra
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Florida, USA
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Posted 1 May 2019 6:33 pm |
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Hi, this is my first post here. I have played 8 string resophonic for years, but just bought a used Emmons steel pedal. Can anyone tell me how the pedals are supposed to be tuned?
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Guy |
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Paul Wade
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mundelein,ill
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 2 May 2019 9:18 am
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Probably E9th without the first two strings, like this:
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P1 P2 P3 Knee
G# A
E F# D#
B C# C#
G# A
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E D#
D
B C#
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Peter Leavenworth
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Madbury, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 5 May 2019 9:21 am 8-string pedal sttel
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I used to have a Sho-Bud D-8 40 years ago that came with a tuning minus the usual lower two strings. Seemed to me at the time that the usual top two strings are more important for a beginner to get a handle on.
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2008 Zum D-10, 1996 Mullens PRP D-10, 1974 Emmons D-10, 1976 Emmons D-10, early 70s Emmons GS-10, Milkman Sideman head w/Telonics 15" speaker, 1966 Fender Super Reverb, 1970 Fender Dual Showman head, Wechter/Scheerhorn and Beard Dobros, 1962 Supro lap steels, Gibson 1939 RB-11 banjo, Gibson 1978 RB-250
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 5 May 2019 9:40 am Re: 8-string pedal sttel
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| Peter Leavenworth wrote: |
| I used to have a Sho-Bud D-8 40 years ago that came with a tuning minus the usual lower two strings. Seemed to me at the time that the usual top two strings are more important for a beginner to get a handle on. |
I agree. I started on a triple 8 string non-pedal guitar. I set up the E9 neck with strings 1 thru 8. That's what I would also do on an 8 string pedal steel guitar.
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Jim Rossen
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Iowa, USA
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Posted 5 May 2019 11:52 am Tuning for C6 or A6 8 string pedal?
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Thoughts on a copedant for a 6th tuned 8 string?
Thanks
Jim |
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Peter Leavenworth
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Madbury, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 8 May 2019 3:36 am tuning an 8-string pedal steel
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Again, my '65 ShoBud D-8 (which had 6 pedals, 3 for each neck, 1 knee) came with the lower C6 neck minus the usual two lower strings on a 10-string neck. The 3 pedals for the lower neck were, unlike the top E9 neck, set up in what is now an unusual arrangement. I don't remember exactly what that was but it was more in tune with western swing chording and did not envision the more sophisticated possibilities of today's C6 variations.
However, I do remember that when our band opened up for Vassar Clements's band, his great steel player had no problem getting more out of it than I ever did. Can't remember his name, he drove the bus.......
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2008 Zum D-10, 1996 Mullens PRP D-10, 1974 Emmons D-10, 1976 Emmons D-10, early 70s Emmons GS-10, Milkman Sideman head w/Telonics 15" speaker, 1966 Fender Super Reverb, 1970 Fender Dual Showman head, Wechter/Scheerhorn and Beard Dobros, 1962 Supro lap steels, Gibson 1939 RB-11 banjo, Gibson 1978 RB-250
banjo......and way too much more |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 8 May 2019 4:58 am Re: tuning an 8-string pedal steel
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| Peter Leavenworth wrote: |
Again, my '65 ShoBud D-8 (which had 6 pedals, 3 for each neck, 1 knee) came with the lower C6 neck minus the usual two lower strings on a 10-string neck. The 3 pedals for the lower neck were, unlike the top E9 neck, set up in what is now an unusual arrangement. I don't remember exactly what that was but it was more in tune with western swing chording and did not envision the more sophisticated possibilities of today's C6 variations.
However, I do remember that when our band opened up for Vassar Clements's band, his great steel player had no problem getting more out of it than I ever did. Can't remember his name, he drove the bus....... |
When I saw Vasser, he had Big Jim Murphy playing. Did the steel player also play sax?
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Johnie King
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 8 May 2019 6:07 am
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abc pedals
Emmons knees on left
Right knees? What ever floats your boat!
Lot of music here with out the D an B bass strings.
F#
E-
G#
E
B
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Jim Palenscar
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Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 8 May 2019 6:50 am
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I generally setup 8 sting pedal steels w 4 pedals as follows- leaving off the top 2 chromatics:
the 1st pedal raising the E-F
then std AB pedals
then E lowers E-Eb
- that configuration enables the majority of changes that are commonly used for the E9th tuning |
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Peter Leavenworth
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Madbury, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 9 May 2019 7:17 pm 8 string tuning
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Richard, he very well may have, I just donβt remember - it was the 70s after all. I do recall that he was a very good on steel and he dated my ShoBud to around 1965. I wish I still had that guitar.....
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2008 Zum D-10, 1996 Mullens PRP D-10, 1974 Emmons D-10, 1976 Emmons D-10, early 70s Emmons GS-10, Milkman Sideman head w/Telonics 15" speaker, 1966 Fender Super Reverb, 1970 Fender Dual Showman head, Wechter/Scheerhorn and Beard Dobros, 1962 Supro lap steels, Gibson 1939 RB-11 banjo, Gibson 1978 RB-250
banjo......and way too much more |
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David Ball
From:
North Carolina High Country
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Posted 10 May 2019 2:20 am Re: Tuning for C6 or A6 8 string pedal?
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| Jim Rossen wrote: |
Thoughts on a copedant for a 6th tuned 8 string?
Thanks
Jim |
I have my 8 string, 3 and 3 Jackson set up in C6 (top 8 strings of standard 10 string). High to low, DECAGECA
The 3 pedals are set up like pedals 5,6 and 7 on a standard C6 copedent.
LKL does multiple duties--it raises string 7 a half step (like pedal 8 would), it also raises string 1 a half step and lowers string 8 a full step.
RKL lowers string 3 and 7 a half step
RKR lowers string 4 a half step.
This arrangement has been working out pretty well for me.
Dave |
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