The Steel Guitar Forum

Other than Touch My Heart lick, need more uses.

Listen to Lloyd, he uses it all the time.

Weldon used it for the intro and ride on this song. Many players thought this was double-tracked or played with an Echoplex or delay pedal, but it's just a triplet unison lick with A&B pedals down, and the C# drop on the 2nd string:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZiv2n2ZU0

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Invaluable when you study counterpoint and contrary motion.

Buddy Emmons used it for counterpoint on Danny Boy.

Didn't Weldon Myrick and Hal Rugg raise C#-D-D# on string 2, at least at one time?

Larry -

listen to steel solo on Keith Whitley's version of "I Never Go Around Mirrors"

'after the pickup notes, 2nd string drop is engaged at 10th fret

then in combination with
and then without
your fifth string raise

If I remember correctly, the tab is available thru Forum's search function

Here's my take on this , even tho I'm usually wrong...

I view the dropped C# as the 6th in the Key of E.

The 3rd=G#

The root=E

the 5th= B

are right under bar, experiment and grab some strings for 6th "sounds" @ 12th fret or open

I think the 2nd string C# is so valuable that I tune the string to that note and raise it to D and D# on 2 different knee levers.

All the above, plus it's great for C6th sounding single string as well as chord work. As for Weldon, thinking he tuned his 2nd string to D. Raised it a half and lowered it a half.

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Peter Freiberger wrote:Didn't Weldon Myrick and Hal Rugg raise C#-D-D# on string 2, at least at one time?

Me too since 1978, But still I'm no Weldon Myrick or Hal Rugg...
However, I really like it much better that way that as a raised string.

Would like to have the C# to D and C# to D# on different knee levers, but don't want to go beyond 5 knee levers or give up other knee changes. It works alright as a half stop except not too well on the Promat which does not have a strong feel at the D.
My Mullen G2 has the best half stop I ever used.

Andy DePaule wrote:[...Would like to have the C# to D and C# to D# on different knee levers, but don't want to go beyond 5 knee levers or give up other knee changes.

You might consider a wrist lever.

Thanks Mike,
Not sure about a wrist lever. Perhaps if I ever get a chance to try one out first?
I do know that for me 5 underneath is plenty.
Can't see myself dancing my knees around to reach at inside and outside levers.
Seems like 1 bar, 3 picks, 10 strings, 5 pedals and 5 knee levers is about maxing out my coordination.
BTW, Your music is very interesting.
Best wishes,
Andy

Some where on U tube they show a kick off of. Texas player, Knee lever 2nd string to C#, 5th string A pedal to C#. Pick 2 and 5 together the release pedal and lever together. As start of a kick off is a neat lick.

Andy DePaule wrote:Thanks Mike,
Not sure about a wrist lever. Perhaps if I ever get a chance to try one out first?

Andy, if you feel like taking a trip to Los Angeles, you're more than welcome to come over and try out mine.

I was skeptical about the wrist when I first saw one.But after I tried it out, I decided that I liked it.

Hi Mike,
Thanks for the offer.
I have good friends in Riverside and Desert Springs, but hate getting stuck in LA traffic.
Last time I went from the Grapevine through the Mojave desert just to avoid traffic.

Went to Jim's shop a couple of years ago thinking the traffic on that freeway would not be too bad... Was fooling myself because it took 5 hours to get back to the Grapevine.

We do have one friend in LA so maybe will tackle the traffic anyway some time soon.
I grew up in La Puente and went to high school in El Monte many years ago. Joined the army and never went back.
Best wishes,
Andy

ps. I think the wrist lever would not be hard to get used to using.