Pedal steel low end frequencies

Rick Contino · From: Brattleboro, Vermont

Iâ€™m looking for an eq pedal to boost low end. My Boss Eq pedalâ€™s lowest boost is 100 hz and that doesnâ€™t seem low enough to me. Maybe that pedal is designed for 6 string? How low do I need to go for both c6 and e9? Any eq pedal suggestions?
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Fred · From: Amesbury, MA

The low A on C6 is about 55hz. You can cut the frequencies you don’t want boosted and turn up your master to get a low end boost.

Fred

Rick Contino · From: Brattleboro, Vermont

Thanks Fred. I’ll try cutting the highs on the eq pedal.

I also see that boss makes a bass eq pedal with a 20 hz boost. Looks promising.
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Dick Wood · From: Springtown Texas, USA

What amp are you playing through?
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Rick Contino · From: Brattleboro, Vermont

Quilter Problock - thus the limited Eq options. I am extremely happy with the amp in general. In fact, it packs a ton of tonal versatility into a small package. But I need a lot of low end power for one group I play with and I can’t dial it in on this amp.
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Godfrey Arthur · From: 3rd Rock

Rick Contino · From: Brattleboro, Vermont

Sica 15”. Homemade open back cab. The speaker has plenty of low end with my tube amp.
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Godfrey Arthur · From: 3rd Rock

Scott Duckworth · From: Etowah, TN Western Foothills of the Smokies

Just make sure the amp and speaker can reproduce the lows. It may not be the EQ. I've heard bass singers (including myself) that can sing lower than some systems can reproduce, and they are not that low... maybe 40-50Hz.
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Georg Sørtun · From: Mandal, Agder, Norway

Mike Brown · From: Meridian, Mississippi USA

I recommend the Peavey 115N BW enclosure featured here;
https://peavey.com/products/index.cfm/item/1073/118888/

https://peavey.com/products/index.cfm/item/1073/118888/

Bob Hoffnar · From: Austin, Tx

You could try putting the speaker cab on the floor near a corner.

What kind of music are you playing ? It's interesting that you need those low frequencies.
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Rick Contino · From: Brattleboro, Vermont

The music is experimental.... I often fill out the sound with low pads. It’s just not the same without the rumble.

I know my speaker and cab can put out the bass. I now my tube amp can too, so I may just keep using that. I just thought the problock might be able to work as well with some low end control in pedal form.
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Asa Brosius · Posted 21 Jan 2019 1:47 pm

Hey Rick- maybe build a removable back for your cab? My semi-closed cab tightens and projects bass tangibly better than my open back. Hope to see you soon-

Carl Mesrobian · From: Salem, Massachusetts, USA

Rick

What Scott said.

You might try contacting Quilter and telling them your application and see what they suggest.
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Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

Brad Sarno · From: St. Louis, MO USA

I agree with those suggesting that the right speaker cabinet is gonna be the best approach. Electronically, your gear IS generating plenty of lows. Likely a closed back and ported speaker cabinet will be the ticket.

You can electronically throw all the lows in the world at the wrong type of speaker cabinet and you just won't hear/feel what you're after. Maybe even a small-ish bass-guitar cabinet would deliver.

B

Bill A. Moore · From: Silver City, New Mexico, USA

If the speaker has plenty of low end with another amp, then it is not the problem here. The amp you are trying to use may by design have the low attenuated. A 6 string low frequency is around 80HZ, so keeping the amp from reproducing anything lower would not be necessary.
I'm reminded that back in the day, we hired a steeler from Texas to help us with a 2 week gig. While there he blew the BW in his Nash 1000. I brought a 2-12 (1/2 of an TL806Q), cab that I had used for mids with our R&R band, but he was convinced it couldn't work. I told him it was good to 50HZ, and the 2EV's would handle any power the Peavey would put out. He looked at me, and said, "I told you", and hit his low string, and dimed the volume. It was loud enough to shake dust from the rafters! He used it for the remainder of the gig, and tried to keep it, said "just keep my pay", I promised to build another for him, but I never saw him again.

Georg Sørtun · From: Mandal, Agder, Norway

Rick Contino · From: Brattleboro, Vermont

Interesting discussion. It looks like there are two solutions:

1. Put a back on my speaker cabinet.

2. Just use my tube amp to get the lows from the same speaker and cab.

I suspect that the power is there somewhere in the Problock. I wonder what would happen if I ran a different preamp (one with a three knob eq) into the effects return portion of the Problock, bypassing the preamp and eq controls on the Problock and just using it for power.

Before I got the Problock Pat Quilter told me in an email the the EQ on the Problock might not be the best for pedal steel. But it actually is, as long as I don't want to shake the rafters with the lower strings. I love the sound of the amp for C&W.

Pat also told me that the Problock has the same power component as the Steelaire, just without the bells and whistles. I would expect that the Steelaire would have -plenty of low end with the low bass cranked.
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