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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 6 Feb 2006 10:11 am    
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Fourth string on E9 neck. .014 70s mica MSA Classic D10. I am having a problem adjusting the string to pull up to F# using the third pedal.

What is the correct way to determine the maximum amount of pitch change at the changer availiable on this string. I want to eliminate the changer as a problem before I start in on the bellcranks and rod set up.

Can you get an accurate guage on the amount of change by disconnecting the rods on that string at the bellcranks and then pushing in on the nylon tuners manually with the tuning wrench to activate the raise and see how far the pitch will go up?

Thanks for the info.
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richard burton


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Britain
Post  Posted 6 Feb 2006 10:36 am    
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That's the way I would do it.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 6 Feb 2006 11:02 am    
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Make sure you have at last an .014 guage string on there. I've seen cases where the manufacturer put the wrong guage in the envelope, and one or two thousandths will make a difference on the smaller strings. Also, make sure that both the lowering and raising fingers are solidly against the stop-bar when no pedals are activated! (If the lowers are over-tuned, it'll mess up the raises, and vice-versa.)
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Bo Borland


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South Jersey -
Post  Posted 6 Feb 2006 11:26 pm    
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Bill, The owners manual from my mid 70's MSA has a .013 listed as the correct guage.
I have always used the listed guages and never had a problem with the E to F# raise on P3.
I am curious, what is your serial number?
After loosening the pivot bushing on the pull finger (bell crank),
I would move the changer finger by hand rather than pushing on the tuning nut, it could bend your rod.
Also take the entire rod out including the guide tube, wipe it down and see if the tube is binding anywhere. You could have a kink in it.
The amount of pedal travel can be adjusted with the allen stop screw near the rod connecting linkage on the front apron.
Are you trying to go further than F#? or will it just nut pull up to F#?
If you don't have a manual, let me know..I scan mine and email it to you.

[This message was edited by Bo Borland on 06 February 2006 at 11:32 PM.]

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Don Poland


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Hanover, PA.
Post  Posted 7 Feb 2006 6:41 am    
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Bill, I have a 74 MSA Classic and I have a rosewood mica cabinet. I have my 4th string raising to an F# also with no problems. I am using the Jagwire strings and I have the .014 on the 4th string. I would suspect that you may be having tuner nut problems. Wayne Link in Canada sold me all new tuner nuts for a very reasonable price and I had Bobby Bowman in TX rebuild my Classic to like new conditions. You may want to think about having you guitar looked at by someone that is a professional steel mechanic and have them go over everything with a fine tooth comb. I know I am very happy with my old MSA

p.s. If you click on the link in my signature, there is a copy of the Original MSA Manual on my website that is in PDF format. Lots of good info there. Also note that the original strings were in fact .013 as stated earlier and as shown in the manual.

Good Luck

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[This message was edited by Don Poland on 07 February 2006 at 06:48 AM.]

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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 7 Feb 2006 8:46 am    
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I tweaked around on it and got it working just fine. Thanks for the help.
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