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Topic: Best way to Learn Fills & Turnarounds |
Alan Sim
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Lancashire, U.K.
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Posted 3 Feb 2006 11:48 pm |
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Hi All
I suppose the answer is, there is no Best way,but some suggestions would be appreciated.
I thought about playing along to some commercial CD's,but I don't have a lot of country stuff,that's the reason for the question.
Any recommendations would be helpful.
Many thanks
Alan
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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2006 1:01 am
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Hey Alan, have you tried this one by Dewitt Scott?
Back-Up Pedal Steel Guitar [This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 04 February 2006 at 01:11 AM.] |
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Tim Tweedale
From:
Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Posted 4 Feb 2006 1:29 am
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This is my (and therefore best)  way to learn fills and turnarounds.
I take a song I really like from one of my CDs, copy it onto my computer in .aif or .wav form.
Then I load it into a waveform editor (like Peak, for instance).
Then I chop out the particular fill or turnaround I want to work with. So I can listen to it again and again and again.
Then I get it to the point where I can sing it in my head (or out loud). And also be able to tap out the rhythm independent from the melody.
Then I go to my steel, and try to find the position it starts in. You'd be surprised how easily it goes from here.
Meanwhile, I constantly check what I'm playing against the recording to see if I'm either missing something or adding something that's not there.
Then I write it down (in tab) to make sure I don't forget it.
Then I record myself playing it so I can hear if I captured all the nuances I wanted to capure.
If you get it right, good on ya. If you get it wrong, even better; you've figured out a new way of doing it (something steel players should always be looking for).
I have always found transcription one of the funnest and most rewarding parts of my practicing. You're really solving puzzles, improving your hearing and playing. Building muscles all over the place.
So often too, when I get it right there's this satisfying feeling of "Oh, that makes so much sense!" And "this is way easier than it sounds!"
Dig in and get your hands dirty!
-Tim[This message was edited by Tim Tweedale on 04 February 2006 at 01:31 AM.] |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 4 Feb 2006 7:46 am
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well of course there are plenty of quality methods..here is my take...
If you are not in touch with the MUSIC you may never play the turns or fills.
Meaning..if you are not completely familar with the chord chart and the chord patterns with the turns and fills, you will just be playing licks, maybe...
Start at the very beginning, make a simple chord chart of the entire song..chart the turnarounds and endings as well..make notes on the chart.
Play behind the song using as many different redundant chord positions that you can..
open no pedals, AB pedals, BC pedals, A pedal, A pedal F lever, F lever etc....
Play them from several string grips as well...
When you are familar with what each of the Pedals/Knee's offer from different positions you will hear the pieces of the phrases you are seeking...and understand where they come from.
I know this may sound a bit harsh, but as a player, any Instrument, acquires a better knowledge of there Instrument and redundant playing positions, when they hear songs on the radio it does not take an excessive amount of time to identify where those phrases are coming from, they should start to be recognizable.
a good place to start is always with the basics first...
t[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 04 February 2006 at 09:58 AM.] |
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James Sission
From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2006 9:49 am
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| Tim and Tony, your posts here are an example of what makes this site so valuable to a beginner. Thank you both for that insight. And Tony, it doesn’t sound harsh to me, it just sounds matter of fact. It took me a long time to come to that realization on 6-string……James [This message was edited by James Sission on 04 February 2006 at 09:50 AM.] |
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Gene Jones
From:
Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 4 Feb 2006 10:09 am
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Alan Sim
From:
Lancashire, U.K.
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Posted 4 Feb 2006 10:49 am
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Hi Guys
Thanks for the feedback.I have been out today and bought a 3 pack compilation CD.
All I need to do now is work out what key the songs are in,and I'll be practising.
Alan
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