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Cameron Fulp
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Lindale Texas, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2018 8:52 am |
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Hi there I am looking for a universal 12 chord chart? Does anyone have any recommendations or by chance may have the chord chart. Below is my copedant
Cameron
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Len Amaral
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Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 25 Jul 2018 4:59 pm
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Interesting, pedal #1 sixth string to Bd and the vertical lever fifth string to Bd. Why not just have the vertical lever?
Um, now I get it, you can use pedal #1 & #2 together with no conflict B to Bd on the 5th string. |
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Ken Metcalf
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San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2018 4:57 am
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What part of Texas?
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
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Ken Metcalf
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San Antonio Texas USA
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Bobby D. Jones
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West Virginia, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2018 8:09 pm U 12 chord chart.
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I just looked at the copendent started going pedal to pedal,and it hit me. The first pedal would be numbered 0 (Zero Pedal). Then the pedals would 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7. This would make it EMMONS/Nashville which would translate 0-A-B-C-4-5-6-7 to use for E9 lessons or tablature. 4-5-6-7 is different on many coppendents.
I started about 18 months ago on a 12U. I hunted the internet for different copendents, I have Sierra, Carl Dixon's, BMI and Jeff Newman's they have the first 3 pedals EMMONS/NASHVILLE ABC, or NEWMAN CBA. Franklin and GFI list the first pedal with that A# like "Cowboy" Eddie Longs.
This is part of the fun playing a steel guitar, They cut and fit for what they wanted, Now we have to live with it and figure it out. Good Luck and Happy Steelin on your venture. |
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MIchael Bean
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North Of Boston
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Posted 27 Jul 2018 4:12 am
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2018 4:20 am
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Probably Comp for Compensator.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Len Amaral
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Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 27 Jul 2018 2:56 pm
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The pedal chart above got me to thinking. I put the pedal #1 change above, string six G# to A# on a LKL and it works great with my A pedal. I sacrificed the 9th string B to D.
This was a gem of a post when you find a usable and an easy change. |
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Cameron Fulp
From:
Lindale Texas, USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2018 4:04 pm
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| What part of Texas? |
Hi Ken, I am in Tyler Texas. Thanks for everyone’s feedback and for uploading the chart. I’m going to check it out. Thanks |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 28 Jul 2018 7:58 am
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You have two of the standard C6th pedals.
Your P5 is the standard P8, and your P6 is the standard P5. Your P8 is half of the standard P6, but only half.
A chord chart for standard Unis would fall down because you're missing the standard P7, which is a part of the staple diet for most uni and C6th players.
I think it might be easier to ask 'where can I find a X chord on my tuning?" rather than try to find a comprehensive chord chart. Unless Eddie has one made up.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2018 10:15 am
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Hello Lane ^_^
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Cameron Fulp
From:
Lindale Texas, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2018 9:15 am
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
You have two of the standard C6th pedals.
Your P5 is the standard P8, and your P6 is the standard P5. Your P8 is half of the standard P6, but only half.
A chord chart for standard Unis would fall down because you're missing the standard P7, which is a part of the staple diet for most uni and C6th players.
I think it might be easier to ask 'where can I find a X chord on my tuning?" rather than try to find a comprehensive chord chart. Unless Eddie has one made up. |
Thanks Lane, very helpful . Maybe some standard c6 lessons would be more realistic |
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Cameron Fulp
From:
Lindale Texas, USA
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Posted 31 Jul 2018 8:07 am
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| When the EKL is engaged and you are in the B6th mode what is the “fret board†in the B6th mode ? Obviously I understand it doesn’t chage, but hopefully someone can understand what I’m trying to say |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 31 Jul 2018 9:05 am
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I'm not sure what the question is.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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John De Maille
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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 31 Jul 2018 9:14 am
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Cameron,
It's basically C6th, just one step down.
The notes are- B,E,G#, B, E,F#,G#,B,E,G#,D#,F# |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2018 6:08 am
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Here is a good song to play along with, in B6th mode.
Choo-Choo Cha Boogie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-86tKcNMdg
Tuned to Standard pitch, this song is in F.
Engage RR and put the Bar on Fret-6.
You will basically use a "snap your fingers" style of picking, on strings 10-4.
Start the song and play along.
When you hear the chord change, switch from RR to LKR (or P8 ) at fret 6.
The other basic chord in the song is two frets up with LKR (or P8 ).
On the word Choo-Choo, I would go with P8 at fret-6.
Welcome to the B6th tuning. It's super fun!
Cowboy Eddie's setup is a "One-Big-Tuning" type of Universal setup. You can play out of E9th or B6th or A6th modes all over the place. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 2 Aug 2018 7:00 am
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When it goes to the IV chord, I'd go to the 9th fret with your P6 (the standard P5), but that's just a matter of taste.
Pete's suggestion gives you a Bb7th chord, while mine gives you a Bb9th.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2018 7:48 am
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His P8 gives him that inversion.
I tried to keep it with the KISS method.  |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2018 7:57 am
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There are other B6th flavored changes on there.
With RR engaged, you can use the your P3 (B-pedal) to go from a 6th chord to a 7th chord.
With RR engaged, P1+P2 basically gives you a faux P7 function.
Your LKR+P6 gives you a Diminished chord that you can use one fret back from open position (then they repeat every three frets in either direction).
You can play the Boo-Wha style that sounds like "Hold It" by going between your P5 and P6.
Also, in E9th mode, that P8 gives you a nice 7th chord.
Your P7 also gives you a 7th-chord, two frets back from open in E9th.
Last edited by Pete Burak on 2 Aug 2018 8:39 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 2 Aug 2018 8:18 am
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| Pete Burak wrote: |
His P8 gives him that inversion.
I tried to keep it with the KISS method. |
Of course. I'd forgotten about the F# 1st string in there.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2018 8:43 am
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I like Lane's way, too!.. (which is how I usually play the song, because I don't lower both strings 4 and 8 to D).
You can toggle on/off the string-5 B-to-Bb while you are at that position to get part of the intro lick. |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2018 8:44 am
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| A chord chart for standard Unis would fall down because you're missing the standard P7, which is a part of the staple diet for most uni and C6th players. |
Though not using a single pedal, the changes are available. P1 & P2 together give the standard P7 change. If one is comfortable with two-footing that combined with his P6 gives the standard P5 & P7 combination, and his P1 & P2 with LKR would give the standard P6 & P7 combination. |
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Cameron Fulp
From:
Lindale Texas, USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2018 9:38 am
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| Thanks Guys, All the comments are super appreciated.Its starting to click! SOOO many options |
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Justin Emmert
From:
Greensboro, NC
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Posted 30 Sep 2018 3:47 pm
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Here a couple questions on Cowboys tuning for you.
1. How to get a standard P6 with this tuning. ( I'm guessing is something with releasing RKR, but not sure.)
2. What to do with Cowboys P7? |
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 30 Sep 2018 4:50 pm
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Looks like P1 and P2 together are sort of a hybrid P7 substitute. I do that split on a knee kever in my uni coped but prefer the regular p7 on a d10.
Looks two footer style coped for B6.
But..
Pushing P7 with the right foot is where most of the fun is in playing steel. |
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