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John McGann

 

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Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 11:58 am    
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Sorry about the poor quality of the photos; I don't have a great camera and this is what point and shoot got me. The spilt front is black with a beautiful teal blue, top is black.

Setup:
 

E9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 LKL LK2 LKV LKR RKL RKR
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F# G#
D# E D,C#
G# A
E F# F Eb
B C# C# Bb A
G# A F#
F#
E F# F Eb
D C#
B C# Bb A

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Bottom Pedals Knee Levers
C6 4 5 6 7 8 9 CKL CKV CLL RKL RKR
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D
E F Eb
C D B C#
A B Ab Bb
G F# F
E F Eb D
C Db C#
A Bb Ab
F Eb E F#
C A D D
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Hybrid D10 # 18, ordered late October 2004, delivered mid-December 2005. Bruce said "18 months" when I ordered, actual time elapsed 14 months. I've waited this long to post about it because I wanted to play it awhile and really get some time on it, and also because it took awhile to get the pictures sent off and then scanned...

Bruce worked with me on figuring out the best way to deal with the setup. Of course, it took many revisions to finally settle on what I have- which will keep me busy for several lifetimes. The addition of the 5th and 6th string lowers on the C6th have just opened up things wonderfully on that neck; I also love having the "4th pedal" changes on the E9.

The main rave is that the tone is just amazing; all the clarity and sustain and character of sound found in the best steels- the "growl" of the push/pull- is here, especially above the 12th fret.

Bobbe says the Hybrid doesn't sound like a p/p. Randy Beavers and John Hughey say it does. At Tommy Cass' workshop, I played six different vintage Emmons p/p's that were all amazing, great guitars- each with a different personality... a bolt on is different from a cut tail, and any two given guitars from any year are going to be a little different anyway... so, you'll have to make up your own mind. I heard Randy at the CT. show in '03, and John Hughey with the Time Jumpers on '04, and I was sold on the sound. (I realize those guys could make anything sound great and didn't expect to purchase their hands along with the guitar!)

"Tunes like a p/p on raises"- not having owned a p/p, but having played a few, this is different but easy. The primary raises are tuned at the headstock. The open string is then tuned at the changer. Lowers (and a raises) tune like an all pull.

The instrument is beautiful to look at, sounds like heaven, and plays smooth as silk- pedals and levers smooth and light but not feather light- you need to feel some resistance IMHO. I am having a blast and will upload a sample of my playing when I get something together that does better justice to the instrument than the photos do!

Bruce- Thanks again for such a wonderful instrument!

No luck getting to setup on the C6th to align correctly-even followed the directions on help page...

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Drew Howard


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Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 2:15 pm    
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NICE!

More pix when you get a chance, Jon.

Are those screws on the endplate (above the nylon tuners) for tuning?

Drew

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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 2:29 pm    
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Thats a killer guitar.
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John McGann

 

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Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 2:39 pm    
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Thanks guys. Eventually I will get decent pix together.

The screws just above the changer are the open string tuners on the primary raises. The row above that are for split tuning.

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Chuck McGill


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An hour from Memphis and 2 from Nashville, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 3:05 pm    
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What a beauty. Your my hero.
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Bill Simmons

 

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Keller, Texas/Birmingham, AL, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 3:40 pm    
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The ZUM is one of the best built and sounding steels I've owned...I love the Zums. Bruce is a master builder!
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Billy Murdoch

 

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Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 3:44 pm    
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John, you have a gorgeous guitar there.
I know you will have countless years of enjoyment with it.
best regards
billy
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Hook Moore


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South Charleston,West Virginia
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 4:04 pm    
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Nice guitar John...congradulations!
Hook

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Tony Rankin


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Land O’ Lakes, FL
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 4:42 pm    
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John,

Very nice! Congratulations and welcome to the unoffical Hybrid club.

Tony
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Bobby Boggs

 

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Upstate SC.
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 8:25 pm    
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Great looking ax.Congrats.
Do both necks have the hybrid changer or just the E9??..........bb
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Per Berner


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Skovde, Sweden
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 1:18 am    
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Waiting for mine to be built just got harder... Congratulations!

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John McGann

 

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Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 7:39 am    
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Bruce suggested the regular all pull changer on the C6th, but I really wanted the Hybrid and he agreed to do it, and I am glad- one thing I really wanted was that p/p clarity on complex chords, and man, does it deliver!
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john widgren


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Wilton CT
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 9:07 am    
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Congrats on the beautiful new guitar. Just a brief clarification: You mention tuning primary raises at the headstock, which is correct, but a primary raise is not necessarily a whole tone change. If your 8th string E raises only to an F (a common KL change) then that half tone raise would be tuned at the headstock. Same with the G# to A's. (Assuming that is your longest raise). So again to clarify: One would tune the longest raise on any string at the headstock, then proceed to tune open strings at the open string allen screwheads, etc. This system provides body contact on all final raises, open notes, and final lowers. Splits and intermediate lowers are not body contacted per this system. I love my Hybrid, and I appreciate it more every day. Very best wishes...John
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john widgren


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Wilton CT
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 9:21 am    
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I just checked your copedant and I see that you do indeed raise str.8 to an F# so yes, that whole tone raise is your primary raise,(tuned at the headstock) but my point about a primary raise not necessarily being a whole tone, and the tuning method still applies. Play good!
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John McGann

 

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Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 9:32 am    
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John, thanks for helping explain!
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CrowBear Schmitt


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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 9:46 am    
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My, my, my ! Congratulations John
that baby should keep you up at night

me three have a Zum on order & am considering the Hybrid on E9

let's hear it fer Bruce
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john widgren


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Wilton CT
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 1:41 pm    
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Here is my Hybrid # 8





Mr. Sparkle: "Banishes dirt to the land of wind and ghosts."

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John McGann

 

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Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 2:00 pm    
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D'OH!!!
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jim milewski

 

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stowe, vermont
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 2:41 pm    
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I notice two different types of tuning keys, do you order what key you prefer?
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john widgren


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Wilton CT
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2006 7:36 pm    
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Dear Jim,

Bruce put old style kluson "butterbean" tuners on my hybrid, custom, at my request, at additional cost. I have another Hybrid on order, and it will have Bruce's standard tuners. (Gotoh's I believe). Bruce really builds an awesome instrument. I really love my 67 PP, but if you ask me what I'm playing these days...well, it's the Zum.
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