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James Gennrich
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Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2005 6:44 pm |
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| Due to back problems and age catching up with me,I am going from a D10 LeGrand II to a new S10 ZumSteel.My question is that I ordered a S10 4/5 without the Hybred Changer but with the ACS cabinet drop device. I have been thinking of changing my order to a S10 Hybred. Has anybody got one? Can anyone give me any input? Do you need the ASC device with the Hybred? I have read that the D10 Hybreds sound different then the Standard D10. Is that the same for the S10s? Also, what is the best pickup for a S10? I do some recording but most of my playing is at live gigs. Any input from the forum members will help make my mind up on what guitar I have built. Thanks Jim. |
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mtulbert
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Plano, Texas 75023
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Posted 18 Dec 2005 7:53 pm
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You might want to ask Wayne Smith these questions directly. He has a new Zum SD10 that he bought without the hybrid changer but the 0 drop mechanism. He is a great steel player and knows his stuff. You should be able to find many posts here on the forum from him and from there you can get his email address or ask him here.
From what I have heard, the hybrid changer gets the sound of an all pull guitar closer to the sound of the classic push pull guitars. I don't know anyone at this point with a single 10 who has gotten this yet, but Randy Beavers would also be able to give you tremendous insite about it as well as great picker here in Texas named Rick Price.
Good luck,
Mark T. |
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Stephen Gambrell
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Over there
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Posted 18 Dec 2005 9:53 pm
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| There's a guy named John Hughey, was playing a hybrid last time I saw him. Sounded KILLER, too---but then again, it was John Hughey. |
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Bobby Boggs
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Upstate SC.
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Randy Beavers
From:
Lebanon,TN 37090
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Posted 19 Dec 2005 5:32 am
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The anti cabinet drop device will not work with the Hybrid changer. However a guitar with the Hybrid changer has very little drop. It can be measured with a tuner, but it is so little I never notice it.
As to the tone, Bruce has been trying to get his standard changer to sound like the Hybrid, and has made progress in that direction. There are tuning advantages with the Hybrid system. Like a push-pull, temperature changes don't affect the pull rods since the raise finger moves between an allen screw and the body. It doesn't just move to where the nylon tuner is adjusted.
I have 2 Hybrid guitars. A D-10 with True-Tone single coils, and a SD-10 with a Lawrence 710 pickup. While I prefer a single coil, there is something about the 710 I really like on that guitar. It seems to have that mid-range "bark" like a mid 70's push-pull, and it records great. |
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Matt Elsen
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Deer Harbor, Orcas Island, WA
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Posted 19 Dec 2005 6:47 pm
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I have a new D-10 Zum Hybrid & would echo the sentiment and the nature of the other comments in this thread. I am absolutely thrilled with my guitar. The tone, the sustain, the general 'feel' and response of the guitar (the playability) are all fantastic. The workmanship is superb, absolutely first-rate. (Previous to this guitar I have been playing a 'regular' D-10 Zum I bought from Bruce in the mid-90's - a guitar I have thoroughly enjoyed owning and playing). The hybrid kicks tail.
The hybrid came with the Wallace TT's and are the only pickups I have tried on the guitar. They sound terrific - but if, as Randy suggests, the 710's offer something beyond the Truetone's, they must really be something to hear....
From my perspective, there is no need for an anti-detuning device for the Hybrid guitar, assuming you'll be using an E9th tuning with a fairly standard "Emmons" style pedal set up with your 1st pedal activating your B's to C# and your second pedal going from G#'s to A. My guitar is set up this way and seems rock solid in this regard.
However, if you plan on placing another change in the Pedal 1 position - and moving the B to C# change further towards the center of the guitar (into the 2nd or 3rd position) - that may have some negative effect. I had a lengthy conversation with Bruce about this when I was considering putting a first & second string raise on the first floor pedal in position number one. At that time he strongly suggested that if I was to use that change in that location, then he advised going with the anti-tuning device.
I'd talk with Bruce about your specific tuning to see if there's something you're doing that really calls for the anti-tuning device. If not, then go ahead and consider the hybrid. In the meantime, if you have any other questions, don't hesitate to drop me an email - I'd be happy to chat. Either way, I promise, you're going to love owning a Zumsteel.
M.E.
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