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Looking for info about this bar-mounted volume pedal

Posted: 8 May 2018 8:49 pm
by G. Robertson
Can anyone tell me who made this pedal? Was it made for a specific brand or are there parts missing that allow it to be mounted and used with any guitar? I've got a Sho Bud Professional D10. Thanks!
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Posted: 8 May 2018 9:01 pm
by Bobby Boggs
That's an Emmons VP. For several years they, for whatever reason, didn't stamp their name on them.

Posted: 8 May 2018 9:52 pm
by G. Robertson
Thanks, Bobby.
Was it made just for Emmons guitars or can you get parts to use it with others? I recall seeing a pedal rail mounted pin that the pedal dropped on to in my travels. I'll do some research but if you (or anyone) knows a parts source please let me know.

Posted: 8 May 2018 11:26 pm
by Skip Edwards
It was made for an Emmons gtr, but they can be attached to other steels with a little tinkering. I've used one on a Sho-Bud for many years.

Posted: 9 May 2018 12:02 am
by Stu Schulman
I bought one of those years ago in a thrift store for two bucks,I sent it to Josh Dubin in Nashville,Emmons?

Posted: 9 May 2018 7:58 am
by Erv Niehaus
That pedal was made so when steel players on the Grand Ole Opry needed to move their guitar, the foot volume control would stay with the instrument.

Posted: 9 May 2018 8:21 am
by Lee Warren
Is that a 'drop pin' model?

Posted: 9 May 2018 8:45 am
by G. Robertson
It appears to be. I looked it up and saw an 'L' bracket with it which I believe attached to the guitar's pedal rail. That 'L' bracket had a pin that the volume pedal's swivel bearing would seem to drop onto.

Posted: 9 May 2018 9:00 am
by Erv Niehaus
This type of pedal came in two different configurations: "fixed" pin and "drop" pin.
This one is a drop pin.

Posted: 10 May 2018 2:32 pm
by Bob Moore
When I got my first MSA I got one at same time. Had drop pin setup like in picture. Bob M

Posted: 28 May 2018 11:59 pm
by G. Robertson
Anyone know where to get the pin bracket for the volume pedal that attaches it to the pedal bar of the steel?

Posted: 29 May 2018 6:07 am
by John Swain
The L bracket is not important, but you definitely need the 2 "feet" that support the adjustment screws. My Carters just had the hole for the pin and two 1"×2 1/2" tabs screwed into bottom of the pedal bar.

Posted: 29 May 2018 7:18 am
by G. Robertson
Thanks, John. But not sure what you mean. As seen in the pics earlier in the thread, my pedal has 2 height adjustment screws with feet. Is that what you mean by " but you definitely need the 2 "feet" that support the adjustment screws." ?

It appears what is needed is a bracket with a pin that attaches to the pedal bar that the pedal can drop on to.

Posted: 29 May 2018 7:40 am
by Edward Rhea
Jim Moran posted this picture on a thread...

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Perhaps Jerry Roller, Billy Knowels, or somebody can get you one, if you’re to ask them? Best to ya!

Posted: 29 May 2018 8:05 am
by G. Robertson
Well, that makes more sense to me now out of what John mentioned. I see the 2 "tabs" the pedal feet would sit on. But no pin on the bracket....so I'm still not sure what I'm looking at in your pic. Maybe my pedal has missing parts.

I'd think the swivel bearing on the pedal that the pin fits into would be the only contact with a mounting bracket. So as to allow the pedal to swivel slightly left to align with your foot rather that be kept at a right angle by the "tabs."
I'll contact those folk for more info.

Much thanks, Jim and John.

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Posted: 29 May 2018 8:48 am
by Tom Sosbe
pm sent

Posted: 29 May 2018 8:53 am
by Edward Rhea
Well G, I must admit, after further examination, the pic I (re)posted is a “fixed pin” bracket/pedal...my mistake!
Here you go:

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Sorry for the misinformation there... :oops:

Posted: 29 May 2018 9:13 am
by G. Robertson
No problem, Edward. I appreciate it. I'm getting an education here about it.

Posted: 29 May 2018 11:31 am
by John Swain
Take a look a Emmons guutars. They all came from the factory setup for that pedal. You're missing the removable pin. Im not sure of the size, but a GeorgeL tuning wrench will workvas replacement.